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The Chinese flag deployed on the Mars lander. The mechanism for unfurling the flag uses shape-memory polymers instead of traditional metal components. This helped achieve a weight saving of more than 50%, with the entire system weighing less than 200g. Flag dimensions are 320mm by 240mm.

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davidau

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The Chinese flag deployed on the Mars lander. The mechanism for unfurling the flag uses shape-memory polymers instead of traditional metal components. This helped achieve a weight saving of more than 50%, with the entire system weighing less than 200g. Flag dimensions are 320mm by 240mm.

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Unlike some other nation's flag which crumbed, this flag of China will last, because a lot of research has been put into it to make sure the flag will endure the harsh atmosphere.
 
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Richard Santos

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I saw this in the morning and didn't think much of it, but on second thought maybe it's worth talking about.
Russia’s space authority will incorporate a Chinese superheavy launcher into its home-grown manned spacecraft for future moon-landing missions, a senior Russian official said.

Alexander Bloshenko, executive director of the state-backed space agency Roscosmos, said that in the future China and Russia
would design technical procedures for their respective spacecraft to allow integration in future space missions.

“Both sides have agreed to incorporate Russia’s superheavy rocket with China’s human space flight as well as the other way round – incorporate China’s superheavy rocket with Russia’s manned carriers,” he said on Monday, according to Russian state-owned news agency Sputnik. China has not commented on the planned space cooperation with Russia.

Russia’s space authority will incorporate a Chinese superheavy launcher into its home-grown manned spacecraft for future moon-landing missions, a senior Russian official said.

While Bloshenko did not specify which spacecraft would be involved, the report referred to the construction of Russia’s Yenisei superheavy launcher and the Oryol manned spacecraft. It also mentioned construction under way of China’s new-generation heavy launch vehicle Long March 9 and a new-generation crew launch vehicle.

According to previous government announcements, the first lift-off of Yenisei and Oyrol is set for 2028 and a test flight of China’s Long March 9 is expected in 2030.

Space exploration
and related technologies were identified as a key area of cooperation between Beijing and Moscow in their rapidly deepening bilateral relations
amid shared pressure from the United States. Space cooperation is also expected to be on the agenda during talks between China’s top diplomat Yang Jiechi and secretary of Russia’s Security Council Nikolai Patrushev
in Moscow on Tuesday.

In a communique following a foreign ministerial meeting in March, Russia and China said they would expand their cooperation
in lunar and deep-space exploration, satellite communication technology, aerospace components and Russia’s proposed Spektr-M scientific satellite, as well as long-term cooperation in satellite navigation by enhancing the compatibility of China’s BeiDou and Russia’s Glonass satellites.

Chinese military affairs commentator and former PLA instructor Song Zhongping said given the agreement allowing China and Russia to work together on lunar space missions, it made sense for the two countries to trust each other enough at the launch of each other’s manned spacecraft.

“If the project is possible, it will be a great demonstration of the adoption of an aligned standard in space programmes between Russia and China … this is a show of strong cooperation and trust, and also lays the foundation and standards for other aspects of the space cooperation, like the lunar station,” Song said.

China’s space programme
has been developing rapidly since it became the third nation to independently launch an astronaut into orbit in 2003, four decades after the Soviets and Americans first did so. Beijing plans to set up a space station
by 2022 and a lunar station by 2045.

While Beijing insists its space programme is developed for peaceful purposes, its rapidly improving capabilities have raised suspicions, particularly from the US. In June last year, the Pentagon’s new space strategy listed China and Russia as strategic threats that “have weaponised space as a means to reduce US and allies’ military effectiveness and challenge … freedom of operation in space”.

One of China’s current largest launch vehicle the Long March 5B re-entered Earth earlier this month after launching part of China’s space station. Its plunge into the Indian Ocean prompted the US space agency Nasa to accuse China’s space programme of failing to “meet responsible standards”.

Last year, China became the first country in four decades to bring rocks from the moon back to Earth and the third country to achieve such a feat, after the United States and the Soviet Union.

Given that Russia and China signed that agreement previously to build a lunar surface station together making payloads and super heavy lift launch vehicles compatible between the two countries seem like a good idea. I'm not very familiar with Yenisei, has Russia made much progress on this rocket?
Unfortunately Russia’s space program is currently an underfunded mess that is still largely subsisting on its soviet bequeathed basic hardware and knowhow. At this moment I would say except in some area of rocket engine and space nuclear technology, and in raw experience of human in space, Russia is otherwise behind China in all fields of space capability, and they are making no real headway, while China is and is thus pulling farther ahead. So while this cooperation is good publicity here and now, it probably will be only of marginal value to the Chinese if it ever comes time to show and tell.
 

Richard Santos

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The Chinese flag deployed on the Mars lander. The mechanism for unfurling the flag uses shape-memory polymers instead of traditional metal components. This helped achieve a weight saving of more than 50%, with the entire system weighing less than 200g. Flag dimensions are 320mm by 240mm.

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Seems like a wasted 200 grams. Could just paint the flag on some flat surface on the lander and rover.
 

AF-1

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Any news about cargo ship launch date? Nothing about it since the last delay...
 
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