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MarkD

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They know enough the Europeans are willing to tie their Martian landers to Russian tech. We are getting OT for Chinese space programs though.

A lander that is not proven. Russia hasn't been able to orbit the moon since fall of USSR. They can't even send a probe to orbit moon let alone Mars. I'll believe it when I see they land on Mars.
 

eprash

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A lander that is not proven. Russia hasn't been able to orbit the moon since fall of USSR. They can't even send a probe to orbit moon let alone Mars. I'll believe it when I see they land on Mars.
Russia/USSR already had blueprints for Lunar lab modules and the means to make them, Zvezda moonbase and LEK were cancelled due to political reasons
The LK lander was infact considered to be a superior design by NASA engineers who had the chance to see it firsthand after Soviet dissolution, China even bought the propulsion module's blueprints. The real issue is money and lack of political will
 

MarkD

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Russia/USSR already had blueprints for Lunar lab modules and the means to make them, Zvezda moonbase and LEK were cancelled due to political reasons
The LK lander was infact considered to be a superior design by NASA engineers who had the chance to see it firsthand after Soviet dissolution, China even bought the propulsion module's blueprints. The real issue is money and lack of political will

Basically, Russia must endure 100 years of humiliation due to defeat of Cold War. They cannot have the political will anytime soon.
 

jimmyjames30x30

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That's wildly uncalled for and not appropriate for this forum. Comments like that get you banned. Scale it back, please.
There is nothing truer than what he is saying. Defeat is hard and bad. It is not something you can talk your way out of. Let it be a reminder for all countries in the world. Remember the hordes of fools in Russia who cheered on and celebrated the fall of their own nation. They had the idiocy to blindly believe that whatever coming afterwards is necessarily better.
Well, poverty, shortened life expectancy, rampant corruption, out of control gangs and mafia, total plunder of wealth, large number of women forced by poverty into prostitution, collapsed industry, internal ethnic conflict, religious sectarian violence, terrorist insurgency, etc. All of these is what these idiots, who happy signed off their own nation and future to be plundered by Western/Global capitalists in exchange for a meaningless metal (and praises from their enemy), deserved.
Just like a woman who whore out her body for free in exchange for a "Gold metal in chastity". She will get NOTHING, NOTHING but pain, humiliation, ruined physical and mental healthy, and a reputation for being a stupid whore.
 

ougoah

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You guys realise that MarkD is being sarcastic here right? He's trying to say that in the western mindset Russia ought to suffer for losing the Cold War and using a sarcastic hyperbolic tone to make fun of that attitude.
 

MarkD

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You guys realise that MarkD is being sarcastic here right? He's trying to say that in the western mindset Russia ought to suffer for losing the Cold War and using a sarcastic hyperbolic tone to make fun of that attitude.

All countries suffer humiliation after defeat. Germany lost land in WW1 and WW2. Austria lost land in WW1. Turkey lost land in WW1. Japan lost land in WW2. Spain lost land to US and Britain. Russia lost land to Japan. China lost land to Britain and Japan. Russia lost land after losing Cold War. Turkey had to suffer 100 years of humiliation until 2023 when Erdogan changes constitution with a supposed Lausanne treaty expiration. Japan can't change constitution until 2045 100 years after defeat in WW2. Heck, even China suffered 100 years of humiliation after defeat by Britain at Opium war in 1841. It wasn't until 1949 when Mao said zhong guo ren min zhang qi lai le.

 
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ougoah

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All countries suffer humiliation after defeat. Germany lost land in WW1 and WW2. Austria lost land in WW1. Turkey lost land in WW1. Japan lost land in WW2. Spain lost land to US and Britain. Russia lost land to Japan. China lost land to Britain and Japan. Russia lost land after losing Cold War. Turkey had to suffer 100 years of humiliation until 2023 when Erdogan changes constitution with a supposed Lausanne treaty expiration. Japan can't change constitution until 2045 100 years after defeat in WW2. Heck, even China suffered 100 years of humiliation after defeat by Britain at Opium war in 1841. It wasn't until 1949 when Mao said zhong guo ren min zhang qi lai le.


Okay your choice of wording "must suffer" is misleading and if what you actually mean to say, quite ridiculous indeed.
 

by78

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Taiwan is 125 km from mainland China (google map distance tool). While it's true Chinese land based aircraft have no trouble reaching Taiwan, surrounding Taiwan with several aircraft carrier battle groups is psychological warfare, and also provides quick deployment to quickly seize control of the island should the opportunity arise, similar to how Russia quickly seized control of Crimea before US could react.

Russia lacks the capability to land on the moon after the USSR fell. They will need help from China to reestablish a foothold on the moon again.

Russia has very small budget. They are having trouble keeping Roscosmos alive as it is. On top of that, COVID hit Russia hard, which made it that much harder for their space program.

Even if they want to, they have no know how to.

A lander that is not proven. Russia hasn't been able to orbit the moon since fall of USSR. They can't even send a probe to orbit moon let alone Mars. I'll believe it when I see they land on Mars.

Basically, Russia must endure 100 years of humiliation due to defeat of Cold War. They cannot have the political will anytime soon.

All countries suffer humiliation after defeat. Germany lost land in WW1 and WW2. Austria lost land in WW1. Turkey lost land in WW1. Japan lost land in WW2. Spain lost land to US and Britain. Russia lost land to Japan. China lost land to Britain and Japan. Russia lost land after losing Cold War. Turkey had to suffer 100 years of humiliation until 2023 when Erdogan changes constitution with a supposed Lausanne treaty expiration. Japan can't change constitution until 2045 100 years after defeat in WW2. Heck, even China suffered 100 years of humiliation after defeat by Britain at Opium war in 1841. It wasn't until 1949 when Mao said zhong guo ren min zhang qi lai le.


Russia, humiliation, blah blah blah, what thread is this? Could you not derail the discussion with your off-topic political nonsense?
 
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