China's Space Program News Thread

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AndrewS

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And yet SpaceX (the champion of reusable rocket) is using every bit of technology that all trace back to Apollo program. If you count the spendings in Apollo into SpaceX, you would see that Apollo is very efficient and left great sustainable legacy. I dare to say that all rocket technologies in US is the children of Apollo. Through Apollo program, US established the full range of technologies for space industry which spreads out in various companies and passed on by generations of engineers, some of them then joined SpaceX to make F9 and Merlin. Who paid for the knowledge and experience these people possess? NASA through Apollo program.

Just give you some example, check the ancestry of Merlin engine. It is developed from an earlier engine by one of the NASA contractor. Apollo as any other NASA programs back then was run by the same way, if you call Apollo as waste and unwise, then you are calling the whole US space history a waste.

You can not suppose. What-If is as pointless as "travel back in time and kill Hitler to stop WWII". We come to this point of time is because we went through every step that we have taken.

I'm not denying that Apollo eventually produced a lot of good stuff.

But we also have the benefit of hindsight to analyse the history of the US space programme and see what was done well and what was done badly.

When you look at the cost breakdown for the Apollo programme below, you can see that much of that spending was on lots of missions in the name of prestige. But the actual mission objectives were pretty pointless, because the output was a bunch of moon rocks. And you don't actually need or want manned missions to do that exploration, because unmanned is better.

So you can foresee at the beginning that much of the Apollo spending is completely unnecessary if you only want to develop the technology. That is why I say Apollo spending was inefficient.

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The unlimited resources available for the Apollo programme, arguably led to the subsequent style of project definition and execution, with gold-plated requirements and little thought as to commercial viability.

After Apollo, the US settled on a manned Space Shuttle programme and a manned ISS, again in the name of prestige, rather than focusing solely on driving down launch costs with unmanned rockets.

So did the Apollo missions (by being manned and a rush job) impede the overall development of a low-cost launch industry in the USA by decades? It's only now that we see a SpaceX emerge
 
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ZeEa5KPul

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A successful launch of the 14th CZ-2F was confirmed. The payload, a reusable spacecraft will continue to perform experiments in orbit "providing technical solution for the peaceful use of space" before landing on designated landing site, according to Xinhua.
I'm really starting to get irritated at the soft language of the Chinese press. Enough of this "peaceful" tripe, leave that mealy-mouthed talk to diplomats. The line should just mention that the rocket was carrying a reusable spacecraft which will continue to perform experiments in orbit. That's it.

You don't have to justify China launching space planes for f**** sake. :mad:
 

taxiya

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Image from the article. I think it is worth to show here. We can see the fairing is much larger than any CZ-2
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