China's SCS Strategy Thread

Overbom

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US military itself stays well clear of SCS and there are people here that still insist on that lol

Forget about SCS, it's all about the 2nd Island chain now. PLA procurement and R&D efforts are now focused to be able to dominate the 2nd Island chain the same way it does the first one.

This SCS discussion would have made more sense 10 years ago, nowadays forget about it.
 

duskseeker

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US military itself stays well clear of SCS and there are people here that still insist on that lol

Forget about SCS, it's all about the 2nd Island chain now. PLA procurement and R&D efforts are now focused to be able to dominate the 2nd Island chain the same way it does the first one.

This SCS discussion would have made more sense 10 years ago, nowadays forget about it.
Hey you know how Americans love to project...
 

Brainsuker

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PLAN has plenty of 054As that can protect China’s SCS island bases

Nobody can be sure about "plenty" or "enough". Like what happen to Russia's warships that park in their black sea port. The American can always ambush those ships with sea drones and make a propaganda to discredit Chinese military tech capability, when a confrontation, like, with Philippine come to become real. Specially when 054A was designed to face the more conventional type warfare, prior the drone implementation in today war. Like in Armenia - Azerbaijan war and Ukrainian war.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Nobody can be sure about "plenty" or "enough". Like what happen to Russia's warships that park in their black sea port. The American can always ambush those ships with sea drones and make a propaganda to discredit Chinese military tech capability, when a confrontation, like, with Philippine come to become real. Specially when 054A was designed to face the more conventional type warfare, prior the drone implementation in today war. Like in Armenia - Azerbaijan war and Ukrainian war.
The PLA/PLAN would have to be the most incompetent fighting force if they have not planned, gamed, incorporated the lessons learned from the conflict in Ukraine, especially with the utility of UUV drones among others that enabled an asymmetrical advantage against Russian Navy.

Having said that, the PLA entire war fighting concept based on their announced strategy and many writings both publicly published and unpublished we can surmise that they have long ago saw the advantages in drone utility as force multiplier, usage in ISR etc..prior to the war with Armenia vs Azerbaijan and the most recent conflict with Russia and NATO/UKRAINE.

There's no doubt that China have looked into these contingencies and possibilities that can and will arise. As the Prussian military commander and strategist Helmuth von Moltke said: "No plan survives first contact with the enemy."
 

tamsen_ikard

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Nobody can be sure about "plenty" or "enough". Like what happen to Russia's warships that park in their black sea port. The American can always ambush those ships with sea drones and make a propaganda to discredit Chinese military tech capability, when a confrontation, like, with Philippine come to become real. Specially when 054A was designed to face the more conventional type warfare, prior the drone implementation in today war. Like in Armenia - Azerbaijan war and Ukrainian war.
What you said is a several times bigger danger for US than China. US relies almost entirely on its navy which is extremely vulnerable to Chinese missiles and drones fired from land and also fired from Chinese air force planes.

China doesn't need to rely on its navy to win a fight within the first island chain. It can easily use its air force and Land based missile/drone force. Air power can do everything the navy can do within First island chain and likely cheaper.

Chinese destroyer and frigate forces are essentially floating air defense and offensive missile platforms. Yes, they will be very useful if China was to project power in a distant foreign country. But for any place that is within range of J-11/J-16/J-20 and also PLARF missiles, it might be cheaper and better to use those forces instead of navy ships.
 
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