China's SCS Strategy Thread
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@Jono bro the MOA is a positive first step BUT Duterte can't move it forward, the deal was sign in Nov 2018 right after the midterm election, so he can't use his political influence over the legislature, in effect he become a lame duck, only those with presidential aspiration and some reelectionist senators may want his endorsement. Its to late to make an impact and is a heavy political burden on him due to American finance anti China propaganda. He choose and pick his battle ,with Marcos overwhelming victory and an impending oil crisis, with the goodwill generated by the incoming administration, this is the time to make a move and finalized an agreement.
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right, looking forward to this happening soon once President Marcos takes the helm.
I am sure a China-PH joint exploration of gas will reap huge benefits for the 2 countries and their people, smiles.
China brings in development and prosperity, while America only sows dissent, division, and strife.
I am sure a China-PH joint exploration of gas will reap huge benefits for the 2 countries and their people, smiles.
China brings in development and prosperity, while America only sows dissent, division, and strife.
@Jono bro look at this guy analysis, what constitutional crisis its 60/40 in favor of the Philippine and you serve as an Associate Justice of the SC WTF!!!, This guy is a paid hack by the US and Pangilinan the owner of Forum Exploration. So what's the real deal, like I said it's a political masterstroke by Duterte, making those accusation against him look foolish and this guy is one of them. What he want is to make SCS a contested area so that the American will have a say, an unpatriotic act cause that area is also claimed by Vietnam and IF Vietnam and China had a JV then what about the Philippines? The oil below span across other claimants, siphoning the oil that rightly belong to us, so we will be the loser instead of us reaping the benefits. He is looking at a zero sum game preferred by the US and he think he is the only smart people in the Philippine so his voice carry weight...lol They are belittling Duterte not knowing the full picture as their judgement are clouded by their owned biases against him.
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Told you so, Duterte knew he is hamstrung by the opposition on his China Pivot, he need to strategically retreat to out foxed his enemy. And the bait work, Carpio is stupid like all the elites, he didn't perceived the geostrategic dynamics in the region, he thinks he's a genius BUT is dumb as hell...lol Marcos with a huge mandate will clinch the deal and the opposition with the US can't do anything about it, with the oil crisis who don't want a free oil...lol
Now IF the oil deal is agreed, the US FON is a travesty, people in the region will ask why are you here? Who do you represent? why are you stirring trouble? It's our neighborhood, we can work among ourselves bilaterally so you overstay your welcome...lol The Collective West just can't take the hint and need a bad mouth like Duterte to say it out loud.
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Now IF the oil deal is agreed, the US FON is a travesty, people in the region will ask why are you here? Who do you represent? why are you stirring trouble? It's our neighborhood, we can work among ourselves bilaterally so you overstay your welcome...lol The Collective West just can't take the hint and need a bad mouth like Duterte to say it out loud.
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I don't understand the local Philippines politics, but I would say that China should be very careful with its dealing with regard to the new Marcos government. It cannot take the more pro-China admin for granted. Whatever agreement they eventually might strike cannot be looked upon domestically as terrible for Philippines. As long as China does not lose any of its existing rock/islands, I'm good with pretty much any type of agreement.
I would say this, if Philippines is willing to renege VFA and allow China to have access to a naval base (similar to what happens with Ream) in southern Philippines, I think China should be very generous and accommodating with settling its disputes with Philippines.
More on China/Phillipines cooperation. New large steel plant under construction and will open in 4 years.
I would say this, if Philippines is willing to renege VFA and allow China to have access to a naval base (similar to what happens with Ream) in southern Philippines, I think China should be very generous and accommodating with settling its disputes with Philippines.
More on China/Phillipines cooperation. New large steel plant under construction and will open in 4 years.
@tphuang Sir in this geopolitical game, you need to gamble and sometimes giving something is to received something. What is China strategic objective? We all know the answer and it's succeeding, the oil for me is insignificant what's important is w/o China participation nobody will be able to extract those oils and will remain untapped. That for me is power, so everybody need to be in China good grace....lol
Now a benign power know how to used its influence and China who aspired to be one should be magnanimous.
Then nothing change, you replace a imperialist with another one, China in her history never see the Philippines as a threat, if so we will be speaking Chinese as our national language....lol What China want is a peaceful neighborhood for her to grow and trade. Such proximity the Chinese don't need a military presence like the Americans do. So her economic strategy is the right one, as the region is starving for development.
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The naval base in Ream, Cambodia isn't even one for PLAN, at most it can have ships make some stops there for oil/supplies.
And I do think China would want that to be possible one day for Philippine as well (no need for actual persistent/permanent basing), although right now would kind of be stepping on US toes, so probably better to wait.
(Also in general, I think as China gets deals where it can more easily visit and get supplies, we might also see more cooperation/training with friendly foreign navies, and they might also sometime go for a friendly visit and get a stop at a chinese port).
@Michaelsinodef bro port visit are allowed to any foreign ship as we're situated in a vital shipping lane, what we don't want is to use us as a staging point for military expedition or aggression against other country. The US had multiple bases around Asia, so why include us? It's by design to defend us or to recolonized us? the same question maybe ask to the Chinese, the Russian ,the Japanese and others. We had experience it all during the Korean War, Vietnam War, the Cold War , the Iraq War 1 and 2 and the WOT.
Fully agree with @ansy1968