China's SCS Strategy Thread

Bellum_Romanum

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they may not be fully prepared to repulse it, just like with Philippines & Singapore in WW2; that doesn't mean that China will make in impregnable forever. The US may not stop at nuking the island to make it uninhabitable to any1, if it's in their interests. Btw, Tsai already said that Taiwan is already de-facto independent, no need for formal declaration. She is right: there is only 1 Republic of China on Taiwan.

we didn't hear it yet, but if India was threatening Sri Lanka, China wouldn't be sitting on the fence.

the PRC de-facto owns Sri Lanka now.

u don't have enough domestic consumption to be totally independent of exports; don't try to cut bear's skin before killing it 1st; recall what happened to Argentinian junta after it took & quickly lost the Falklands. They got high prematurely, so don't be counting chicks before they hatch!
These deployments show that China doesn't own the SCS like she owns the Bohai Bay.

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I have no doubt it'll sail in the SCS, possibly together with other allied ships.
India failed in many things, but at least she has more friends in & around Asia & the West than China does. IMO, we r living in pre- Pacific War 2 time.
Nuking Taiwan is a one way street eh Jai Hind?

And you're comparing Argentinas miniscule market and economy to that of China and yet you expect people here to actually give credence to your baseless and fact free opinions? Come on dude, I thought you're better than this.
 

Aniah

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they may not be fully prepared to repulse it, just like with Philippines & Singapore in WW2; that doesn't mean that China will make in impregnable forever. The US may not stop at nuking the island to make it uninhabitable to any1, if it's in their interests. Btw, Tsai already said that Taiwan is already de-facto independent, no need for formal declaration. She is right: there is only 1 Republic of China on Taiwan.

we didn't hear it yet, but if India was threatening Sri Lanka, China wouldn't be sitting on the fence.

the PRC de-facto owns Sri Lanka now.

u don't have enough domestic consumption to be totally independent of exports; don't try to cut bear's skin before killing it 1st; recall what happened to Argentinian junta after it took & quickly lost the Falklands. They got high prematurely, so don't be counting chicks before they hatch!
These deployments show that China doesn't own the SCS like she owns the Bohai Bay.

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I have no doubt it'll sail in the SCS, possibly together with other allied ships.
India failed in many things, but at least she has more friends in & around Asia & the West than China does. IMO, we r living in pre- Pacific War 2 time.
Yes, one deployment of german ship and a few aircraft carriers mean China doesn't own the SCS. I really think you overestimate yourself here unless of course, you're just joking. It's even funnier when you speak of allies this and allies that as if they are meaningful at any extent when you can't even say they will fully commit to American's war. F*cking laughable.
 

Tsavo Lion

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Nuking Taiwan is a one way street eh Jai Hind?
A rifle hanging on the wall in the 1st act will fire in the 3rd.
I doubt PRC leaders will be willing to loose 100s of Ms & dozens of big cities in a nuclear exchange with US over the nuked Taiwan.
I really think you overestimate yourself here unless of course, you're just joking.
I meant what I wrote: no more, no less. the SCS is too important waterway to be allowed to become a Chinese lake.
 
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Aniah

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A rifle hanging on the wall in the 1st act will fire in the 3rd.
I doubt PRC leaders will be willing losing 100s of Ms & dozens of big cities in a nuclear exchange with US over the nuked Taiwan.
Oh they will. They have clearly state this multiple times of how important Taiwan is and the Chinese people themselves agree. I don't think you know much about the Chinese's will if any at all with your assessment.
 

steel21

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India failed in many things, but at least she has more friends in & around Asia & the West than China does. IMO, we r living in pre- Pacific War 2 time.
With less market and less resources comes less "friends".

Friends in international diplomacy is directly proportional to how much benefit you can hand out.

Hence, I seriously doubt India has more friends. At best they would have 1/5 the number of friends China has.
 

Tsavo Lion

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Oh they will. They have clearly state this multiple times of how important Taiwan is and the Chinese people themselves agree.
I know they said it, but I still doubt they'll retaliate with nukes against the CONUS. It won't decontaminate Taiwan & make it habitable again.
With less market and less resources comes less "friends".
Friends in international diplomacy is directly proportional to how much benefit you can hand out.
their friends happen to be the same as US & UK friends there. India has huge trade surplus can also buy friends at will.
 
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manqiangrexue

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they may not be fully prepared to repulse it, just like with Philippines & Singapore in WW2; that doesn't mean that China will make in impregnable forever.
The logic that China can lose Taiwan to another invasion after taking it is basically along the lines of saying that nothing is impregnable forever. That includes Hawaii and the American mainland. What you are saying is based on playing far-fetched logic and technicality games rather than any current military analysis.
The US may not stop at nuking the island to make it uninhabitable to any1, if it's in their interests.
China might not stop at nuking Hawaii and Guam too then. You're going off the rails because your argument cannot be sustained on any reasonable terms.
Btw, Tsai already said that Taiwan is already de-facto independent, no need for formal declaration.
That's saying that they dare not fight now. That's good, because as time passes, China's advantage increases. And that means that China can pick the time most convenient to itself to retake Taiwan.
She is right: there is only 1 Republic of China on Taiwan.
There's not 2 of them on that island, I'll agree to that. But their constitution says that they are one and the same with China and the further they need to delay the conflict for independence the better it is for Beijing.
we didn't hear it yet, but if India was threatening Sri Lanka, China wouldn't be sitting on the fence.
We didn't hear it yet, because you made it up LOL
the PRC de-facto owns Sri Lanka now.
Don't know what you're talking about with your imaginary farcical games and I'm not interested in Sri Lanka.
u don't have enough domestic consumption to be totally independent of exports;
The West doesn't have enough production to be independent of Chinese goods. China has other markets and tighter control over its economy and its citizens. The West has angry masses that torch buildings when they don't get things their way.
don't try to cut bear's skin before killing it 1st;
Yeah, I bet the US feels like a bear being slowly flayed alive seeing China's progress and being helpless to hinder it.
recall what happened to Argentinian junta after it took & quickly lost the Falklands. They got high prematurely, so don't be counting chicks before they hatch!
Can you find any similarities between Argentina and China other than your imaginary scenerio? Recall that the US did nothing but sail in circles when China actively took and expanded its territories in the SCS. Recall also that the US did nothing to protect Ukraine or Georgia from Russia. Modern military trends show that the US will not fight a big powerful foe.
These deployments show that China doesn't own the SCS like she owns the Bohai Bay.

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I have no doubt it'll sail in the SCS, possibly together with other allied ships.
First of all, this is not even a reply to the passage that you quoted. Look at what you quoted. You are falling apart.

Secondly, China claims vast territories in the SCS around its islands but has never made the claim that the SCS is off limits to transit. The current situation shows that the West is all show, no substance while China makes substantial gains in the SCS. The same trend is reasonably expected for Taiwan.
India failed in many things, but at least she has more friends in & around Asia & the West than China does. IMO, we r living in pre- Pacific War 2 time.
India has friends that like its weakness and dependence. These are not good friends to have but friends who cheer your inferiority. Excellent that China does not have these friends; it shows China moving to the forefront of the world to challenge the global order.
A rifle hanging on the wall in the 1st act will fire in the 3rd.
That's an accurate description of China saying it will retake the ROC. No one except you in your desperation to win an argument out of sheer ignorance has ever said that the US might nuke Taiwan.
I doubt PRC leaders will be willing to loose 100s of Ms & dozens of big cities in a nuclear exchange with US over the nuked Taiwan.
You doubt something that has expressly been declared. China has already said that it is willing to go to nuclear war and lose every modern city in a trade-off fighting for Taiwan. Meanwhile, I doubt that American leaders are willing to lose any fraction of that over Taiwan, and they never said that they are.
I meant what I wrote: no more, no less. the SCS is too important waterway to be allowed to become a Chinese lake.
What you allow and what China can take by force are independent of each other. The US didn't want to "allow" China to do anything that China does in the SCS but China does it anyway because the US and its lackies cannot stop it. Compared to a few years ago, China's control over the SCS has become much strengthened much to their chagrin. And China will allow these waters to be transitted through during maritime, but in wartime, China will control it like a puddle with its ASBMs.
I know they said it, but I still doubt they'll retaliate with nukes against the CONUS. It won't decontaminate Taiwan & make it habitable again.
LOLOL Too difficult for you to accept so don't believe it? The Chinese government has declared it and myself and other regular Chinese people have told you again our resolve. Your response is to shove your head in the sand. Unfortunately, "Nope nope nope, you cannot be that determined," isn't a legitimate debate response.

On the other hand, I'm glad that it's so hard for you to believe. It shows the Western mindset that they have so little true commitment to this conflict that they cannot even imagine someone esle going to such lengths over Taiwan. You falsely project your own ideals onto others.
 
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Aniah

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I meant what I wrote: no more, no less. the SCS is too important waterway to be allowed to become a Chinese lake.
A lot of stuff is important yet is anything done? Since it's so important then why hasn't the US and its goons done anything to actually take it? The simple answer is because it haves no capabilities. Just like the Korean war, the Chinese will fight to the death to defend their territories, and the US and it's goons can come die trying. Until they've actually done some action instead of this sad joke of a display that looks like a bunch of sitting ducks and target practice than actual military might, no one is gonna believe a word you said.
 
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