China's SCS Strategy Thread

ougoah

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There seems to be a little bit more shitting on F-35 coming from the US than in the past recently. Can you feel the drive to find political appetite for committing on next generation replacement?
 

ougoah

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It would be horribly inappropriate for China's military leadership to consider any of this type of propaganda from the west. Whatever the source or the intention. If the F-35 is limited in usefulness against a mainland reunification effort, then great. It probably isn't useless and definitely should not be regarded as such. Breeds some sort of complacency and arrogance.

The US is by all reasonable estimates, very close to refining their 6th gen platform/s. Warfare is constantly changing. While China today may have decent enough A2AD against US CBGs and assets positioned all around China, even possibly against USN submarines (since it something China refuses to even hint at how apart from hinting they can detect submarines with certainty). This defense may not last because the US is constantly trying to get the better of it and when they do they will go kinetic the moment they are sure.

China's SCS strategy is built on the backbone of PLA reaching parity with US military and then exceeding it in all conventional domains and exceeding it in how it runs and wins conventional warfare. It must also guarantee MAD regardless of what technologies may exist to repel or counter Chinese efforts at MAD. Without all three, China can forget about guaranteeing SCS, itself a basis for ensuring western pacific security, trade routes, keeping USN at a distance, and if there are to be any last resort military option for reunification of China in case Taiwanese politics go with declaring independence or worse.

No F-35 or US military news (unless it is positive developments that threaten China) should ever be considered, particularly when it comes from the west itself. Because it changes nothing in terms of PLA's eventual goal. These all need to be achieved against the clock.
 

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Out of interest, does anyone know which Branch of the PLA is responsible for the Garrisoning of these SCS Island Bases?
 

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German's turn, but maybe a more benign tour, with a possible visit to Shanghai.

Hit the nail on the head. There's a difference between benign tour and aggressive tour.

Over at the U.K. military thread. We have a certain Mr T suggesting that china' sailed up the English channel twice (visting European countries in U.K.) is somehow the same as sending queen Lizzy down SCS with all the fanfare and pronouciation beforehand as to conduct "freedom of navigation". Talk about stretching reality!
 
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Bellum_Romanum

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Hit the nail on the head. There's a difference between benign tour and aggressive tour.

Over at the U.K. military thread. We have a certain Mr T suggestung that china' sailed up the English channel twice (visting European countries in U.K.) is somehow the same as sending queen Lizzy down SCS with all the fanfare and pronouciation beforehand as to conduct "freedom of navigation". Talk about stretching reality!
What can you say about these western hypocrites
 

Tsavo Lion

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No, when China takes Taiwan, it's over. If these forces couldn't prevent a Chinese invasion, they don't have a ghost of a chance to retake it. And once China takes Taiwan, that will be forever as well.
they may not be fully prepared to repulse it, just like with Philippines & Singapore in WW2; that doesn't mean that China will make in impregnable forever. The US may not stop at nuking the island to make it uninhabitable to any1, if it's in their interests. Btw, Tsai already said that Taiwan is already de-facto independent, no need for formal declaration. She is right: there is only 1 Republic of China on Taiwan.
I have not heard of this Chinese desire. You really just imagine fights out of thin air.
we didn't hear it yet, but if India was threatening Sri Lanka, China wouldn't be sitting on the fence.
You can give up whatever you own but we will not.
the PRC de-facto owns Sri Lanka now.
China's mansion is built on China's domestic economy. China's economy is mostly self-consumption, and with the high of taking the ROC, the Chinese people's support of the CCP will be at a historical high.
u don't have enough domestic consumption to be totally independent of exports; don't try to cut bear's skin before killing it 1st; recall what happened to Argentinian junta after it took & quickly lost the Falklands. They got high prematurely, so don't be counting chicks before they hatch!
These deployments show that China doesn't own the SCS like she owns the Bohai Bay.

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I have no doubt it'll sail in the SCS, possibly together with other allied ships.
India failed in many things, but at least she has more friends in & around Asia & the West than China does. IMO, we r living in pre- Pacific War 2 time.
 
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