China's SCS Strategy Thread

[DarkStar]

It’s evident that the Jai Hind coming from what they call a “courtesy culture” will make up shit and say whatever lies they can make up to make himself feel better

 

[Equation]

I heard it too, but since when generals there formulate, set & conduct policies? The PLA belongs to the CCP, & civilian leadership has other priorities.

FYI, I didn't vote for nor like him; but u just switched to my character personally.

Whether you "like nor vote for him" is irrelevant. The fact remains that the US government f..ked up so bad that they are willing lie and make up any excuses for their ineptness at that time.

 

[Tsavo Lion]

Where did you learn your history? Japan already lost and didn't have nukes to respond and didn't have a delivery method even if they had nukes in 1945.

I never implied that they did.

Inchon landing was BEFORE China entered the war in Korea, so they couldn't care less if US landed anywhere in Korea.

to their peril; PRC entered the war because that landing allowed the UN forces to take almost all of Korea back, all the way to Chinese border.

Americans are so bad at genocide that they were only able to kill 99.9% of native American population.

that wasn't the goal; "kill the Indian, save the man" was, but that's cultural genocide, not physical. FYI, the Crow, Navahos & White Mountain Apache tribes aided the US Army & now have the largest reservations with higher standard of living than on most others. I've visited there & saw it, been to PRC as well, & twice.

Out of their descendants, 0.001% may potentially live better than the average Chinese and not on a reserve, so China failed... Yep, great logic

give some references to show ur point. There r a lot more poor Chinese, by international standards, than the entire Native population of US & Canada combined.

 

[Tsavo Lion]

That's in everyone's judgement here, except your biased desperate twist.

a majority's opinion isn't necessary a correct 1.

They used them twice against a nation without the ability to retaliate. If they use them again, it will be for the same reason or there will be MAD.

China builds more BM silos, but the US may strike even before any MAD with her will become a fact. Having an ability to control the SCS may turn into self-fulfilling prophecy, leading to war & loss of that control, if not more.

When China entered the Korean War, there was almost no North Korea left. Then, China beat the US back until North Korea was bigger than South Korea and it still is today. This is evidence of an American defeat at the hands of a China just coming out of Civil War. It's not good for you.

it's a stalemate, as SK was not taken & prospered a lot more than NK, or ROK.

We don't say we own the whole sea, but we own what we have taken and built there and have military control over the areas in wartime.

then, erase the infamous 9 dash EEZ line from ur maps. Until then, don't call black as white.

Because the only way they will become a Chinese missile target is if it is to wipe out the outside help that's there.
No matter how much they play with their fishing boats, China's not going to fire missiles on thier land, but hosting American forces in wartime will make it happen.

interfering with fishing & shipping to them is as much as attacking their land- people's livelyhoods depend on it.

In wartime, surface combatants cannot enter China's missile defense area by ASBMs which is over 900 miles, with some at 1600 miles. China's building faster as well. China's rise is the most concerning to the US.

that gives the US a good reason to use nukes, if all else fails. Being Anglo-Saxon racists, they don't have any scruples killing Ms of Asians, the same way as with Africans, Arabs & Natives.

Easy access of what? Shipping? It doesn't need it if not to do business with there with those 3 countries. By navy, it doesn't use the land route.

the trade with the ME goes over those SLOCs. Otherwise there wouldn't be a Chinese naval base in Djibouti.

Your opinion is based on ignorance and poor analysis so it is meaningless to the Chinese.

to me, ur own analysis is deficient.

Those who use ancient history to analyze modern trends in a modern world are bound to come up with nonsense.

geography is the same as it was since the Chin Dynasty; the modern trends r still repeating the ancient trends in many ways.

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is as actual now as it was then.

China's populating and it's not being stopped as it's expanding. Good times.

it is inside the PRC, not in SE Asia next to the SCS; in fact, after 2025-35, it'll start to decline.

Yeah, they live better than the traitors in Hong Kong watching the CCP take over. Otherwise, no. Chinese people live with pride, something no Native Americans have left. A life without pride is not worth living.

they do have pride, but don't flaunt it. An Interior secretary is a Native woman, & part-Natives been senators & other politicians.
The Iroquois Confederacy people who inspired US Constitution don't even consider themselves as US citizens- they rejected being made as such in 1924.

Is this your justification of what's right, that not all Native Americans were killed??

no, I just stated a fact. I wished that none or at least less of them been killed, but in America even many Natives live better than peoples under authoritarian regimes elsewhere. China complains about the Yasukuni shrine, but u keep the Mao's mausoleum & his statues even though more Chinese died from his rule than from Hirohito's rule. So, as Chairman Deng said, learn truth from facts.

Use correct grammar; don't write like a 3rd grader texting. And mind your own business; I will handle this debate as I wish.

If u don't want to follow ur own cultural norms, that's fine with me, but let me handle my writing, fair enough? FYI, I was born in the year of the Horse, & according to the Chinese zodiac, such persons can't be defeated in an argument. This been proven to be true many times, at least in my experience.

In your country. China just expands. Unless you're talking about century/millenium trends which is pointless as everyone is here for modern events.

according to past history, the Chinese civilization has ~700-800 year periods of relative peace followed by societal & imperial collapse. With modern weapons & communication, China may have less time for peaceful rise than before.

 

[solarz]

I know they said it, but I still doubt they'll retaliate with nukes against the CONUS. It won't decontaminate Taiwan & make it habitable again.

That's the dumbest thing I've ever read.

Any country that has nukes but chooses not to use them when nuked is basically inviting the enemy to nuke them with impunity.

Do you have any clue what you are suggesting?

 

[Tsavo Lion]

Neither Taiwan nor SCS islands r in Mainland China.

 

[solarz]

Neither Taiwan nor SCS islands r in Mainland China.

LOL, are you really that clueless or are you just trolling?

Let me spell it out for you: China has a no first use policy on nuclear weapons. This means that we will not make any first strike with nuclear weapons, but we will definitely annihilate anyone that conducts a nuclear attack against Chinese territory, and that includes ALL Chinese territory.

 

[Tsavo Lion]

You're not this ignorant are you? You're asking a newly created republic/modern China in 1949 relishing from the vast devastation from the war against Imperial Japan, and the Civil War against the Nationalist losers of Jiang to have all the pre-requisite modern military equipments and modern navies by 1950 do you? What kind of Jai Hind level thinking is this? Lol

I'm not asking that, the relevant part is, China couldn't take all of Korea even though she restored NK.

Care to provide any data to back up your nonsensical assertions again? Fact is the indigenous people's in America Indigenous peoples continue to be over-represented among the poor, the illiterate, and the unemployed. Secondly, Suicide, violence and incarceration. Smoking and substance abuse are more common amongst indigenous peoples; suicide rates and incarceration rates are also higher. These problems are more pronounced in urban areas, where indigenous peoples are detached from their communities and cultures, yet seldom fully embraced as equal members of the dominant society. Indigenous peoples are also more likely to suffer from violent crime. Thirdly, indigenous peoples in America consistently lag behind the non-indigenous population in terms of most indicators of well-being. They live shorter lives, have poorer health care and education and endure higher unemployment rates which means they suffer HIGH LEVELS OF POVERTY.

all of this is unfortunately true, but compare their overall condition with minorities in China, not to mention Ms of poor Hans in the interior. Do they own & operate casinos & other businesses to earn money like the Natives here do?

Now this s..t is funny coming from a Jai Hind fanatic who has done nothing but express utterly dubious claims and fanatical claims about India's non existent Supapowah b.s. over China it's hilariously stupid. You'r assertion about the use of nukes like it's nothing pretty much speaks for itself.

I'm not from India, but she shouldn't be underestimated. Now she has NATO, Japan & Australia as allies, building up her navy with SSN/BNs, CVs, & AF, while conducting more exercises & deployments than ever before.

..we will definitely annihilate anyone that conducts a nuclear attack against Chinese territory, and that includes ALL Chinese territory.

 

[SinoaTerrenum]

#DFTT, don't feed the troll

 

[Tsavo Lion]

Take out

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, other power plants on those SCS islands & effect ill be similar, w/o widespread destruction.