China's SCS Strategy Thread
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China Daily, July 7, 2016
China said its naval drill in the South China Sea is within its sovereign rights, and it urged the Philippines to come back to the negotiating table to solve its maritime disputes with China regardless of an arbitrary tribunal's ruling.
"The drill is a routine exercise the Chinese Navy carries out according to the annual plan. It is within China's sovereign rights and is not targeting any specific countries," Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said on Wednesday.
Hong made the remarks after Vietnam claimed the drill was violating Vietnamese sovereignty.
The Ministry of National Defense confirmed on Tuesday that China would hold a drill in the area between Hainan Island and the Xisha Islands in the first 10 days of July and that military equipment including multiple ships and fixed-wing aircraft would participate.
The Defense Ministry said the drill "aims at improving the military's ability to respond to security threats and implement missions".
"The Xisha Islands are China's inherent territory. There is no dispute of this," Hong reiterated on Wednesday. He asked the parties concerned to "objectively view" the drill.
The drill takes place ahead of ruling expected on July 12 in the arbitration case the Philippines filed in 2013 against China over disputes in the South China Sea.
"China will not accept any country's claim or action based on the so-called ruling", Hong said, after Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte is reported to have said the Philippines is ready to talk to China if the ruling is in the Philippines' favor.
Hong reiterated that the arbitration case filed by the Aquino III administration is "illegal and invalid from the start", and he urged the new Philippine government to "abandon the old administration's wrong practice" and "come back to the proper path of talking and negotiating with China".
Xu Liping, a researcher at the National Institute of International Strategy of the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, said China is not concerned about whom the ruling will favor as it has already made clear that it will not accept or participate in, acknowledge or implement the ruling.
Xu suggested that the Philippines cool down and be low key about the ruling. He said he is "cautiously optimistic" that the Philippines will return to the consensus it reached with China, which is to deal with its maritime disputes with China through bilateral talks.
Said wat??? It's all part of unification plan; peripheral islands first and taiwan mainland later. Current president is independence promoter and instead letting Taiping fall into wrong hands, China would proactively recoup those islands.
China has to find out and understand why US always like to use carrier strike groups to intimidate near China neighborhood despite the possessions of ASBM whereas US wouldn't dare do like that against Russia. Maybe ASBM and AShM arent such deterrence at all.
I don't think it is a secret.
1. Russia is a land power with a limited coastline and maritime interests. What use is a carrier on the Ukraine-Russia border?
2. Russia has enough nuclear missiles and nuclear warheads to obliterate the USA (and vice-versa for that matter)
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In comparison, China has a large coastline which is densely populated and is the world's largest trading nation with the vast majority of that trade going by sea.
Plus China doesn't yet have a large nuclear arsenal that can reach the USA, although that should change as the DF-41 is put into service in the next few years.
I would expect 3 brigades (30 road mobile missiles with 10 warheads each) would be sufficient.
solarz
Brigadier
China's reunification strategy has changed since the 1990's. Try to keep up.
ASBM is developed after 1996 taiwan strait incidence. It supposedly to deter Carrier from getting too near. But looks like it didn't have that effect in current SCS situtation. potentially there could be 2 or 3 US carrier strike group gather there. So, its purpose is defeated.
China needs to go back beef up its nuke deterrence. Its Minimal posture fails.
solarz
Brigadier
Are you serious?
First of all, China has never claimed the entire SCS as its territorial waters. That is a lie fabricated by western media to conduct their propaganda campaign.
Therefore, US carriers transitioning through *international* SCS waters are perfectly legitimate, and would have no reason to fear Chinese ASBMs.
What the ASBMs, along with other improved naval capabilities, do is to increase the risk analysis for the US. They are the reason why the US refuses to commit to a defense of PH claims in the SCS, or to defend the Diaoyu Islands for Japan, even though both are treaty allies. If this was the 1990s, you'd be sure Clinton would have announced something to that effect.
As for nuclear weapons, what you don't seem to understand is that nuclear deterrence is a final resort. You play that card when you don't have anything else to play, because if your opponent calls your bluff, the result is mutual destruction. This does not make nuclear weapons very useful in negotiating issues that are not existential threats. What would you have China do? Everytime things don't go its way, threaten to nuke everyone? That's what North Korea does, is that your idea of what China should become?
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Whatever get the job done! Period.
All I am saying is ASBM doesnt have its deterrence effect as planned.
If China does lash out it may not kill anyone, but it will kill its credibility in the eyes of the international community. It would put all of China's international agreements in doubt, and trust in China as a global entity will be severely undermined.
Now Kyle Mizokami wants to talk about the trust in China globally??
What a big Pile of Horse Manure!