China's SCS Strategy Thread

advill

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My hunch is that there will be a status quo re: South China Sea & East China Sea until a new US President is elected in November. Those countries involved in the squabbles will await the incoming Administration policies on Asia i.e. Trade, Economic, Political and Foreign Affairs etc.
 

Yvrch

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Leaders of rival claimants in SCS don't yet show their appreciation of the size, scope and breadth of the changes happening in China.

China's current internal strategy is " smaller is more" , a 180 degree pivot from " bigger is better". And China is slowly succeeding in this.

Government has now much smaller footprint and they will introduce a fiscal reform in May changing an all important tax system nation wide. China manufacturing 2025, internet plus etc. start rolling. Supply side innovations, that's China original , putting supply side and consumption together, so confusing for traditional western macroeconomics. Which aggregate is it? Shinsei bank, wechat, gategroup, starwood, zalada, singpost, macy's, alibaba, the list goes on and when you connect the dots, sooner or later RMB is going to show up in DXY. That's reality of the rapidly changing nature of China's economy.

I heard TPP just stalled in Japan.

These leaders just don't realize yet they are planning to fight the last war with China.

All these UNCLOS and FONOPs are just theatrical trappings for the underlying geopolitical rivalry between China and US. Will they shoot each other? Possible, but not likely.

China's SCS strategy is : here is my gun in the holster, now let's make money together.
 

LesAdieux

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about China's stand towards international courts

I'll give an example first: after the death of justice Scalia, the republicans have tried everything they could to stop Obama from appointing a new judge to the supreme court, the reason is simple, any ruling or verdict depends on who the judge is.

since China has little sway over the functioning of the current international legal system, China is reluctant to accept its judiciary power.

as for how important the interntional laws are, it depends on who you are. George W once famously said: "I don't care about them!" they mean very little to him.
 

Janiz

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since China has little sway over the functioning of the current international legal system, China is reluctant to accept its judiciary power.
And again this childish argument with 'Western controlled system'. You can use that argument on Chinese boards but let's be serious in this discussion... What's next? That Japanese bought the judges already?
 
I checked just one of the videos and the link inside of the article worked for me a moment ago:
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(at this moment I "understood Chinese" as the voice said "CIA" :)
China’s Latest Bizarre Propaganda Videos Use Batman and Mr. Bean to Explain State Secrets
The five videos try to describe two laws that lay out the party’s stance on national security. They get very bizarre very quickly.

Superman. Mr. Bean. The Joker. Jack Ma. Spongebob Squarepants.

These icons of pop culture are the latest figures to be drawn into
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of Chinese online propaganda.

Today (April 15) is China’s first-ever
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, a new “holiday” meant to publicize the importance of safeguarding state secrets, and by extension, promote the agenda of the Chinese Communist Party with regard to information security and human rights.

To mark the occasion, the ministry of state security has produced a series of cartoon videos that mix abundant pop culture references with government sermonizing.

Using Hollywood movie characters like James Bond, the five videos explain two laws that lay out the party’s stance on national security: the
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and the
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(passed in November 2014 and July 2015, respectively).

They get very bizarre, very quickly.

In one episode explaining the National Security Law, the narrator encourages citizens to identify foreign spies in their daily lives. “Besides special forces, the FBI, and the CIA, you also might think of Superman, Batman, Iron Man, Spiderman, and Captain America [as spies],” the narrator says. “But actually, even in foreign countries, espionage is just a small part of national security. Those who safeguard [their country’s] national security [against China] are not men with magic powers and chest muscles,” he adds. Images of the words “Unemployed” or “Laid off” then
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(video in Chinese)—implying that only disgruntled citizens or foreigners would upset national security.

Another video instructs ordinary citizens to take action against behavior that threatens national security. A baby with large biceps photographs the Joker committing a crime and
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(video in Chinese), who promptly put him in jail. “If you discover there are elements working to undermine national security, immediately report to the relevant authorities and provide evidence,” the narrator says.

Sometimes it’s hard to distinguish if something is intended to be funny or serious. In one video, the narrator explains how newer laws replace older ones.
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(video in Chinese) it references Colin Firth’s character in Kingsman: The Secret Service and modern-day software lingo:

“[Espionage devices] have become so advanced—there are umbrellas that are not easy to carry, but can be used as a crutch,” the narrator explains, as Firth appears in background, firing bullets from an umbrella. “But our [old] national security law was still the same as it was 20 years ago. In November 2014, after installing patches, checking for bugs, and performing other rigorous tests, the new, updated Counter-Espionage Law finally hit the app store.”

More cultural references fill the videos. In one of them, the narrator shouts a catchphrase from the video game World of Warcraft. In another, he encourages citizens to be like Jack Ma and thrust a positive global spotlight on China. Even Adolf Hitler makes a brief cameo—he gets punched by a giant boxing glove.

The videos, like the laws themselves, don’t do much to describe what “national security” or “espionage” entail specifically. That’s by design. The Chinese government will often justify its more controversial actions on the grounds that it is merely protecting national security.When Chinese authorities detained Swedish human rights activist Peter Dahlin
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, officials accused him of “funding criminal activities harmful to China’s national security.”

Meanwhile, last year the Chinese government reportedly encouraged foreign internet companies to pledge they would store Chinese user data in China,
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(paywall). Authorities also listed this practice as part of a draft counter-terrorism law, but it was dropped from a revised version that ultimately passed last December.

China’s state broadcaster CCTV appears to be one of the first news outlets to show the cartoons. Under one of its
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(link in Chinese) about the cartoons, some bloggers described the videos as “so cute,” and hoped for more such government propaganda. One commenter praised the series as being “straight, easy to understand, and close to people.”

Others have reacted to the videos with more skepticism: “I want to file a report! According to some foreign papers, many spies are now transferring our nation’s assets to other countries,” one blogger wrote, referring to Chinese leaders’ involvement in
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Blitzo

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I checked just one of the videos and the link inside of the article worked for me a moment ago:
U0jZq.jpg

(at this moment I "understood Chinese" as the voice said "CIA" :)
China’s Latest Bizarre Propaganda Videos Use Batman and Mr. Bean to Explain State Secrets

source:
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How is this related to the SCS? o_O
 
I doubt Chinese side ever considered taking that to ICJ because most likely they would lose a case. Only fanboys in Chinese mainland talked about that in the Internet and it takes two sides to go to ICJ. China never proposed such peaceful solution. Japan tried that with Korea over Takeshima but South Koreans never accepted that as they would obviously lose in the court case with all the documents.

Don't know about documents, rigged rules favoring colonial and expeditionary powers and their ill-gotten gains are more like it.
 

ahojunk

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2016-04-15 15:30 | CCTV.com | Editor: Wang Fan

China's maritime authority has launched this year's first South China Sea patrol.

The five-day patrol mission will cover the area from Hainan Island to Xisha Islands, and will conduct environmental inspection, rescue, and oceanic research.

The patrol vessel will also stop by Yong Xing island to allow the staff and students of the school on the island onboard for a tour.
 

Janiz

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Don't know about documents, rigged rules favoring colonial and expeditionary powers and their ill-gotten gains are more like it.
Dude, just when Taiwanese citizens were kidnapped in Kenya and transproted to mainland China for 'investigation' you're blabbering some bullshit about 'rules favoring colonial and expenditionary powers'??? Just cut this. Chinese judges will send you to prison if someone from the praty asks them to, not when you're guilty. And I bet Chinese people know that money rule in the courts more than any 'Western' citizen who will need more than accept the judge's ruling when it's against the law...
 
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