China's SCS Strategy Thread

tygyg1111

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The Philippines mocked the Spanish until Spaniards massacred them on an industrial scale, now they love Spanish

The Philippines mocked the Americans until Americans massacred them on an industrial scale, now they love American

The Philippines mocked the Japanese until Japanese massacred them on an industrial scale, now they love Japanese

Some cultures simply remain stuck in the ways of the jungle. China has been so busy getting itself efficent that it partially forgot there's a jungle just outside the door. But as you can see with public sentiment in China already changing, you have these 20-30 yr old new grads who are ready for a might makes right stance. In 10-20 years, they'll be the key mid level decision makers. I'm happy netizens can already put up for example Palawan on the table, after all, why shouldn't any part of any hostile country not be at risk?

I would want to say that it will not be a good time to be a tribal compradors style Pinoy then. But they don't see things the way normal peoples do, they have national masochism where somehow every atrocity just rebounds into even greater love for the perpetrator. So it will actually be a great time to be pinoy, the greatest maybe.
The same mentality as Indians, its just that the colonial power never left the Philippines
 

Coalescence

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The Philippines mocked the Spanish until Spaniards massacred them on an industrial scale, now they love Spanish

The Philippines mocked the Americans until Americans massacred them on an industrial scale, now they love American

The Philippines mocked the Japanese until Japanese massacred them on an industrial scale, now they love Japanese
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The same mentality as Indians, its just that the colonial power never left the Philippines
There's a term for this mentality, and ironically its been taught to us back in grade school within Philippines, its called Colonial Mentality.
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zyklon

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"China’s new submarine may have Typhon missiles in Philippines in its sights, report says
Vessel being built in Wuhan, designed to carry advanced hypersonic missiles, could serve as deterrent, according to semi-official magazine[...]
The People’s Liberation Army has yet to confirm that the larger class of submarine is under development. But the report in Naval & Merchant Ships – a publication owned by China State Shipbuilding Corporation, a supplier to the PLA Navy – provides details of the vessel’s design and capabilities, indirectly confirming its existence and the rationale behind it.[...]"

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Didn't a certain Tom Shugart claimed that the SSK-N actually sank pier-side sometime mid-last year? So why are they digging this up again?

Either way - The SSK-N is rumored to be equipped with EM torpedo tubes, which should be capable of launching YJ-18B cruise missiles. If Guancha Trio's statement regarding the YJ-18B's strike radius is correct, then the SSK-N wouldn't even need to leave the relative umbrella safety of the PLAN and PLAAF in the northern and central regions of the SCS to target pretty much the entirety of the Philippines.

According to the
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, the rumored submarine is capable of launching hypersonic missiles per the original 舰船知识 article:

According to the report, China’s new submarine is designed to carry advanced hypersonic missiles, allowing the PLA to “conduct covert strikes from beyond enemy defences, with the additional option of deploying nuclear warheads if required”.

Assuming this claim is accurate, then the rumored submarine is most likely equipped with VLS cells capable of launching the YJ-21 or something else along those lines.

I believe the 舰船知识 article in question is titled 从武汉新潜艇看中国常规潜艇新技术发展 and might be available or summarized on
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, if someone with an account can help pull it.

Will probably provide more details and clarity than the SCMP article on an article.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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According to the
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, the rumored submarine is capable of launching hypersonic missiles per the original 舰船知识 article:

Assuming this claim is accurate, then the rumored submarine is most likely equipped with VLS cells capable of launching the YJ-21 or something else along those lines.

I believe the 舰船知识 article in question is titled 从武汉新潜艇看中国常规潜艇新技术发展 and might be available or summarized on
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, if someone with an account can help pull it.

Will probably provide more details and clarity than the SCMP article on an article.

I don't think 舰船知识 should be taken as the go-to source for PLA-related developments. They are great reference materials for sure, great CG graphics as well - But only till that.

In the meantime, rumors from the grapevine deemed (at least somewhat) reliable some years ago mentioned that the SSK-N does not have VLS tubes. The SSK-N is claimed to be equipped with EM torpedo tubes, however.

 
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zyklon

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I don't think 舰船知识 should be taken as the go-to source for PLA-related developments. They are great reference materials for sure, great CG graphics as well - But only till that.

In the meantime, rumors from the grapevine deemed (at least somewhat) reliable some years ago mentioned that the SSK-N does not have VLS tubes. The SSK-N is claimed to be equipped with EM torpedo tubes, however.


I haven't touched a copy of 舰船知识 in over two decades, so I'm happy to defer to more informed voices familiar with said magazine as it exists now.

However, I am curious what makes 舰船知识 a less than reliable source, especially considering its subordination under CSSC?
 

GOODTREE

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The Southern Theater Command of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) conducted combat readiness patrols and alert operations in the territorial waters and airspace of Huangyan Island and surrounding areas.

On February 27, the PLA Southern Theater Command organized naval and air forces to conduct combat readiness patrols and alert operations in China's Huangyan Island territorial waters/airspace and adjacent areas. Since February, theater command troops have continued to strengthen patrols and vigilance in the waters and airspace around Huangyan Island, further enhancing control over relevant maritime and airspace areas, resolutely defending national sovereignty and security, and firmly safeguarding peace and stability in the South China Sea region.

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The China Coast Guard conducted law enforcement patrols in Huangyan Island territorial waters and surrounding areas

On February 27, the China Coast Guard carried out law enforcement patrols in the territorial waters of China's Huangyan Island and adjacent areas. Since February, the China Coast Guard has continuously strengthened patrol enforcement in Huangyan Island's territorial waters and surrounding areas, routinely organizing three-dimensional (sea and air) patrols and control operations. In accordance with laws and regulations, they have conducted tracking and monitoring, issued warnings and expulsions, performed boarding inspections and detentions, further strengthening control over relevant maritime areas and resolutely safeguarding national territorial sovereignty and maritime rights and interests.

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ACuriousPLAFan

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I haven't touched a copy of 舰船知识 in over two decades, so I'm happy to defer to more informed voices familiar with said magazine as it exists now.

However, I am curious what makes 舰船知识 a less than reliable source, especially considering its subordination under CSSC?

It's more that 舰船知识 is a good reference material on the general development of the PLA, especially with their CG illustrations. However, they are by no means authoritative (official) announcements or indications on what the PLA would adopt for their WIP/next-generation platforms and equipment.
 
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