China's Defense/Military Breaking News Thread

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taxiya

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Response from the foreign ministry.

I wish the response from Chinese foreign ministry regarding the shootdon was more muted, they did the usual "strongly condemn and protest" talk which made them sound more suspicious then needed.

I think they could still brush it off as purely civilian and a good chunk of people would buy into that theory. But now everyone will think it's a spy balloon given the strong reaction from the ministry.
I think you got it opposite, shooting a spy object over its territory is the right of a country but not shooting a civilian object, therefor strong protest is the right response. If your response is muted, people will buy the theory of spying.
 

delta115

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CPC need to learn about the time when they need a strong respond or be nice.

This balloon incident is partly China fault, they should be upfront about it as preventive measure. It's not like they didn't know that US want something to fit their narrative of China threat to justified their expansion. Here CPC hand them on a plate.

[Action]
- Alert US and spread the news to reduce how wild MSM can spin their sinophobia.
- Issues apologized in advanced as a good will gesture.

[Result]
- US will be hesitate to shoot down balloon because if they did, they might look paranoid instead. China can also have a right to respond with same measure when the time come.
- Reduce tension between US and China, if US still go after China. They will look like over agressive instead.
 

tankphobia

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CPC need to learn about the time when they need a strong respond or be nice.

This balloon incident is partly China fault, they should be upfront about it as preventive measure. It's not like they didn't know that US want something to fit their narrative of China threat to justified their expansion. Here CPC hand them on a plate.

[Action]
- Alert US and spread the news to reduce how wild MSM can spin their sinophobia.
- Issues apologized in advanced as a good will gesture.

[Result]
- US will be hesitate to shoot down balloon because if they did, they might look paranoid instead. China can also have a right to respond with same measure when the time come.
- Reduce tension between US and China, if US still go after China. They will look like over agressive instead.
Which is all the more baffling, when you consider the current response to the balloon floating over Latin America right now, where Chinese authorities have reached an understanding with local authorities and it's barely making a splash.

I don't think apologising is the right course of action, but the Chinese gov definitely could've muddled the waters via not labelling it as a unmanned airship, quicky make a statement before the western media went crazy with their theories, we will see what the US gov choose to release when they finish recovering and analysing the wreckage, if all this came from a PhD project it would really be hilarious.

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Bellum_Romanum

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The MFA people are composed of over the top serious people that doesn't seem to understand or have seriously studied the PLA concept of intelligized, informatized, cognitive warfare domain. If they have read and understand the PLA intent then the MFA people are just wasting time.



They could have easily preempted the western media and U.S. government so that they would be on the defensive rather than being reactive as always. The Chinese information and disinformation team really needs to up their game big time, or risks igniting WWIII way ahead of the Chinese intended schedule.

I don't know what is their strategy and if they are even coordinating with relevant PLA strategic concepts and aims.
 

Sleepyjam

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CPC need to learn about the time when they need a strong respond or be nice.

This balloon incident is partly China fault, they should be upfront about it as preventive measure. It's not like they didn't know that US want something to fit their narrative of China threat to justified their expansion. Here CPC hand them on a plate.

[Action]
- Alert US and spread the news to reduce how wild MSM can spin their sinophobia.
- Issues apologized in advanced as a good will gesture.

[Result]
- US will be hesitate to shoot down balloon because if they did, they might look paranoid instead. China can also have a right to respond with same measure when the time come.
- Reduce tension between US and China, if US still go after China. They will look like over agressive instead.

US doesn’t need justifications it does what it wants as past events have shown.
You can’t appease the MSM and predicating one’s actions on their response is dumb.
Why should China apologize for a civilian balloon? Did the US apologize when its actions violate China’s Sovereignty?

In actuality US is looking paranoid and China has stated it reserves the right to take the same measures. US’s goal is to go after China, it doesn’t care about looking aggressive and may even pat itself on the back for it. The relationship has to get worse before they can get better.
 

Paradigm

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Regardless if the balloon is civilian or military, US just told China its ok to shoot US spy assets over Chinese airspace
first and ask questions later.

And, whether it's intentional or not, US is reacting big for something so trivial. Imagine if it was a Chinese WZ-7 which "strayed off course".
 

Michaelsinodef

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Regardless if the balloon is civilian or military, US just told China its ok to shoot US spy assets over Chinese airspace
first and ask questions later.

And, whether it's intentional or not, US is reacting big for something so trivial. Imagine if it was a Chinese WZ-7 which "strayed off course".
China has already shoot down US spy assets over China though (U2's).
 

clockwork

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to reduce how wild MSM can spin their sinophobia.
Just lol. Then they could've just called it the Devious Oriental again using reverse psychology in a bold frontal attempt at espionage, or something. I feel like Chinese people have this pathology where they're too honest and keep trying to reason with people who'll always lie, thinking it'll change their behaviour. I've long said any "reputational considerations" on China's part are completely braindead, whatever they do the western propaganda machine will paint its picture maximally bad anyway, so they might as well mercilessly take the action with the highest utility. They're incurring the punishment without receiving the reward, so to speak. Arm Russia, copy American patents, sell fentanyl to Mexico. These are all things MIC media's already blaming China for, why not actually follow through and derive the benefits then? What the hell is the concern anyway, rabid Americans will hate them even more? The USG will have an even less friendly China policy? Lol.
 
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