China News Thread

[Randomuser]

Anyone remember that video with the caption "China is falling apart"?
With them talking about a tofu factory, and includes a flashy thumbnail of a factory with a big "Made-In-China" written next to it....
I know that the video is obviously biased, but can anyone check it out and tell me about what that guy is talking about? And maybe debunk him too?

The thing is there are like hundreds if not thousand videos like this coz it gets views from seething anti-China haters who need their daily dose of copium.

Instead the more effective way is to wait for a bit and see how their predictions work out. Most of the time they age poorly. Honestly I think people need to gloat more on it because they keep trying memoryhole it. From three gorge dam, covid, trade war, Biden semiconductor, HK riots etc. All this aged badly but we're not doing enough to rub it in to their face. If you keep rubbing it in, eventually they will probably back off as their credibility is hitting really low levels in their viewers eyes. People are bringing up how Peter Zeihan was wrong about China collapsing in 2020.

Except Jai Hinds. They cannot be saved. They're ability to ignore reality and live in a dream world can be a superpower.

 

[BlackWindMnt]

As Korea is being displaced out of the G20, maybe poland will have a chance of joining the G20.

Bro, how South Korea has a GDP of $1.8 trillion and poland has around $660 billion. The SK economy is almost three times bigger.

 

[broadsword]

Bro, how South Korea has a GDP of $1.8 trillion and poland has around $660 billion. The SK economy is almost three times bigger

Maybe, if South Korea tries not to be white?

 

[BlackWindMnt]

Maybe, if South Korea tries not to be white?

Is such a thing possible for western vassal?

 

[mossen]

I would bet the only reason south Korea could industrialise is because the US had made Japan fat enough so they could then plump up south Korea as a spearpoint onto china's underbelly

The US helped Korea and Japan after the war, true, but it's too simple a story to claim it was the main factor.

There were lots of countries the US helped but failed to take off. Egypt in the post-Camp David accords is a good example. They've been receiving monetary and diplomatic support as compensation to keep the "cold peace" with Israel, yet they are constantly facing economic crisis.

This is the "big button theory of economic development". There's a big button that the West can press and instantly confer developed status to any nation. It doesn't work like that. Korea and Japan became prosperous for the same reason that China has risen so fast: very strong educational system. It's no coincidence that East Asian countries dominate the PISA international exams, just as East Asians do best among all ethnic groups in the US on the SAT/ACT. In the US it is partly a selection effect (Asian immigrants tend to be selected for skill), but you can't say that about PISA which is testing a representative sample.

This is something that all East Asian countries did very well: they educated their population very efficiently early on and this allowed them to very quickly scale the industrial value chain. The educational levels in most of the non-Western world is pretty terrible. East Asia is the outlier.

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[BlackWindMnt]

The US helped Korea and Japan after the war, true, but it's too simple a story to claim it was the main factor.

There were lots of countries the US helped but failed to take off. Egypt in the post-Camp David accords is a good example. They've been receiving monetary and diplomatic support as compensation to keep the "cold peace" with Israel, yet they are constantly facing economic crisis.

This is the "big button theory of economic development". There's a big button that the West can press and instantly confer developed status to any nation. It doesn't work like that. Korea and Japan became prosperous for the same reason that China has risen so fast: very strong educational system. It's no coincidence that East Asian countries dominate the PISA international exams, just as East Asians do best among all ethnic groups in the US on the SAT/ACT. In the US it is partly a selection effect (Asian immigrants tend to be selected for skill), but you can't say that about PISA which is testing a representative sample.

This is something that all East Asian countries did very well: they educated their population very efficiently early on and this allowed them to very quickly scale the industrial value chain. The educational levels in most of the non-Western world is pretty terrible. East Asia is the outlier.

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True that there is a big cultural difference, but looking at Egypt is there any great power level rival in the neighbourhood of Egypt. You had weak incompetent Arab nations and a weakened Iran if im not mistaken. Maybe Egypt under Nassar would have been that western rival but that arc was done once they disposed of him.

Also Isreal has this function of an attack dog in the middle east to attack regional power's proxies and influence. Hence why Israel has some resemblance of state capacity and manufactured competence. Also why the west is more than willing to pump billions into Israeli economy and institutions.

Im not that familiar with the region and 20st century history of the region so im might be completely wrong on those points. I only know of Egypt and Nassar because he took the Suez Canal Company from the UK.

edit: Well the big button is giving better import tarifs for the target nation and access to western finance, so loans come cheap and quick. Its kind of a button but in the span of history what is a decade or 2 if not almost instant.

 

[Randomuser]

The US helped Korea and Japan after the war, true, but it's too simple a story to claim it was the main factor.

There were lots of countries the US helped but failed to take off. Egypt in the post-Camp David accords is a good example. They've been receiving monetary and diplomatic support as compensation to keep the "cold peace" with Israel, yet they are constantly facing economic crisis.

This is the "big button theory of economic development". There's a big button that the West can press and instantly confer developed status to any nation. It doesn't work like that. Korea and Japan became prosperous for the same reason that China has risen so fast: very strong educational system. It's no coincidence that East Asian countries dominate the PISA international exams, just as East Asians do best among all ethnic groups in the US on the SAT/ACT. In the US it is partly a selection effect (Asian immigrants tend to be selected for skill), but you can't say that about PISA which is testing a representative sample.

This is something that all East Asian countries did very well: they educated their population very efficiently early on and this allowed them to very quickly scale the industrial value chain. The educational levels in most of the non-Western world is pretty terrible. East Asia is the outlier.

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Honestly speaking, current day technology and trends suit east asia heavily. In the past many poor peasants etc couldn't reach their potential so even though places like China for example had many people, they couldn't be used as much as one thinks. Technology has allowed problems that have haunted asia for centuries to just disappear. Today combined with stuff like computers and a strong system, it makes them very powerful. Some idiot who would be considered worth less than dirt back then maybe be a genius savant and if his skill is useful, the country will make every use of it.

The western elites who aren't on kool-aid know this. Thats why America has been at war with China/Japan/Korea and even Vietnam. They're not worried about the middle east (except Iran who also have brains) or south america. Its the east asia core.

 

[Franklin]

Can anyone explain why China is vering towards puritanism. Where increasingly violent and sexually suggestive content is being censored in movies, TV shows, video games and the internet. Even the skirts of TV presenters are now longer. China has a secular form of government its not like Iran where you have a religious form of government.

 

[kentchang]

Can anyone explain why China is vering towards puritanism. Where increasingly violent and sexually suggestive content is being censored in movies, TV shows, video games and the internet. Even the skirts of TV presenters are now longer. China has a secular form of government its not like Iran where you have a religious form of government.

China is probably not. Just current administration. 10 years from now things can be very different. This is like saying South Koreans change their minds about North Korea every six years.

 

[azn_cyniq]

Can anyone explain why China is vering towards puritanism. Where increasingly violent and sexually suggestive content is being censored in movies, TV shows, video games and the internet. Even the skirts of TV presenters are now longer. China has a secular form of government its not like Iran where you have a religious form of government.

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I don't think that's a bad thing. In my opinion, unfettered access to sexually explicit material has done irreparable damage to the people of Western countries.