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supersnoop

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Let say a Chinese child doesn't have academic potential but does have athletic potential what sort of sports does a child in china play in the 2020s? Most of the boys here in the Netherlands started playing soccer at the age of 3~4 years old. At the age of 6 or 7 most people know if they have pro footbal potential or not.

Problem is that you cannot say a child has "no academic potential", only a ceiling. Plus studying is demonstrably more effective at raising the floor than sports training. So a parent in decent circumstances will likely want their kid to be in a academic stream where they can more reliably achieve a decent outcome, rather than the athletic (Given the choice of choosing between regular school and those Soviet-style sports academies).

I don't know any sepecifics, but there is a good chance there are not enough organized youth sports outside of state sponsorship, and a corresponding lack of talent identification. Usually when kids have athletic potential, as you mentioned, it will be quite apparent even at a young age. However, due to the young age and not-yet-developed coordination and body, they will usually do very well in a multitude of sports. It won't be until the teenage years where they specialize.

With that in mind, there is no success in any men's teams right now, so clearly there is a deficiency overall.
 

Staedler

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Problem is that you cannot say a child has "no academic potential", only a ceiling. Plus studying is demonstrably more effective at raising the floor than sports training. So a parent in decent circumstances will likely want their kid to be in a academic stream where they can more reliably achieve a decent outcome, rather than the athletic (Given the choice of choosing between regular school and those Soviet-style sports academies).

I don't know any specifics, but there is a good chance there are not enough organized youth sports outside of state sponsorship, and a corresponding lack of talent identification. Usually when kids have athletic potential, as you mentioned, it will be quite apparent even at a young age. However, due to the young age and not-yet-developed coordination and body, they will usually do very well in a multitude of sports. It won't be until the teenage years where they specialize.

With that in mind, there is no success in any men's teams right now, so clearly there is a deficiency overall.

Exactly, how many slots are there in men's teams and how many academically underperforming students are there? Does it make sense to encourage them to aim for sports where there are probably only around 100 positions scattered throughout the leagues. Even if the money spent on sports increases these student's academic performance and earning potential by only 1%, I think given the numbers, it's still better than pushing them into sports to overcompensate for poor sports team performances.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Jin Canrong's talk on historical trends.

Interesting notes:

Out of 200+ countries in the world, only 30 are industrialized. 28 of these are pre-WW2 imperialists.

Only China and South Korea are post-WW2 industrial powers.

He specifically mentions racism as a contributing factors to China-US tensions.
 
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BlackWindMnt

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Jin Canrong's talk on historical trends.

Interesting notes:

Out of 200+ countries in the world, only 30 are industrialized. 28 of these are pre-WW2 imperialists.

Only China and South Korea are post-WW2 industrial powers.

He specifically mentions racism as a contributing factors to China-US tensions.
I would bet the only reason south Korea could industrialise is because the US had made Japan fat enough so they could then plump up south Korea as a spearpoint onto china's underbelly with Japan being the spear pole with which the US can push.

The west is/was doing the same with Poland and Ukraine.
 

kentchang

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I would bet the only reason south Korea could industrialise is because the US had made Japan fat enough so they could then plump up south Korea as a spearpoint onto china's underbelly with Japan being the spear pole with which the US can push.

The west is/was doing the same with Poland and Ukraine.

The Vietnam War greatly benefited Taiwan and South Korea. It was perfect timing for them. Poland should have been included as a newly industrialized country since W.W.2. Poles are very proud of that and very upset Poland is not part of the G20.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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I would bet the only reason south Korea could industrialise is because the US had made Japan fat enough so they could then plump up south Korea as a spearpoint onto china's underbelly with Japan being the spear pole with which the US can push.

The west is/was doing the same with Poland and Ukraine.
Prof. Jin pointed out specifically that South Korea is a half colony (半殖民地) so it doesn't even fully count. Japan is counted among the prewar imperialists, and he specifically points out that they're the weakest of the imperialists.

The Vietnam War greatly benefited Taiwan and South Korea. It was perfect timing for them. Poland should have been included as a newly industrialized country since W.W.2. Poles are very proud of that and very upset Poland is not part of the G20.
Poland was industrialized pre-WW2. They had 1000+ planes and could manufacture domestic tanks and bombers.

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henrik

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The Vietnam War greatly benefited Taiwan and South Korea. It was perfect timing for them. Poland should have been included as a newly industrialized country since W.W.2. Poles are very proud of that and very upset Poland is not part of the G20.

As Korea is being displaced out of the G20, maybe poland will have a chance of joining the G20.
 

sabiothailand

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Anyone remember that video with the caption "China is falling apart"?
With them talking about a tofu factory, and includes a flashy thumbnail of a factory with a big "Made-In-China" written next to it....
I know that the video is obviously biased, but can anyone check it out and tell me about what that guy is talking about? And maybe debunk him too?
 

vincent

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Anyone remember that video with the caption "China is falling apart"?
With them talking about a tofu factory, and includes a flashy thumbnail of a factory with a big "Made-In-China" written next to it....
I know that the video is obviously biased, but can anyone check it out and tell me about what that guy is talking about? And maybe debunk him too?
Why should we care?
 
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