China need a new geopolitical Doctrine ?

solarz said:

Adiru's mentality is like the mentality of religious people. He's got a few fundamental tenets that he will never question regardless how often you point out they are nonsensical. Arguing with him is like an atheist trying to argue with a religious person that God doesn't exist.

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I'm not arguing with him; I'm embarrassing him in public.

manqiangrexue said:

As I told escobar, repeating defeated points doesn't make them true. Your mentality is why you're so bad at debate; it's not comparable to any thought process usable by any nation, much less a rising superpower.

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What defeated point? You are almost naive as gadgetcool5 is, but he is right on this : PRC Gov PR is weak.

escobar said:

What defeated point? You are almost naive as gadgetcool5 is, but he is right on this : PRC Gov PR is weak.

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The defeated point you just said right there. Every example, every argument of yours, all of them cherry picked, imaginary, self-contradictory, off topic, incoherent, and peppered with English words that you don't actually understand, gets instantly destroyed, most often by me, and then you have nothing left but to repeat them without actual rebuttal. Your debate is weak, almost as weak as gadget's.

gadgetcool5 said:

I think many people can see that the US mishandled the Coronavirus and there is great dissatisfaction with Trump. I am not saying China should adopt the US political system. China however should move past the notion of "no interference with domestic affairs of another nation" and start standing up for universal values. If it does it can attract so much goodwill because there are a lot of people out there unhappy with the US and looking for an alternative. They do not want a Han nationalist authoritarian alternative, but if China can really present a more friendly face to the world by settling disputes with its neighbors, dropping wolf warrior diplomacy, and being a little less restrictive at home, it can do a lot of good.

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What exactly do you mean by universal values? Should the United States and the West not start themselves by adopting universal values that have long been known in history that the best from of governments are meritocratic governments and also that the pot should not call the kettle black. If China were to start interfering in the domestic affairs of other nations, there will be a huge outcry about an authoritarian state interfering in the domestic affairs of other countries. In your call to stop interfering in other countries' affairs, look at the ends and results to which various countries who have done so have achieved both generally and on a case by case basis.

This Wolf Warrior thing is overblown. One of the supposed attributes of so called Wolf Warrior diplomacy is China's supposed expansionism and increasing number of disputes with foreign countries... China's territorial disputes and claims have not increased in number or extensiveness during the Xi Administration. People who say this should name what additional claims of territory that China has made.

Weaasel said:

What exactly do you mean by universal values? Should the United States and the West not start themselves by adopting universal values that have long been known in history that the best from of governments are meritocratic governments and also that the pot should not call the kettle black. If China were to start interfering in the domestic affairs of other nations, there will be a huge outcry about an authoritarian state interfering in the domestic affairs of other countries. In your call to stop interfering in other countries' affairs, look at the ends and results to which various countries who have done so have achieved both generally and on a case by case basis.

This Wolf Warrior thing is overblown. One of the supposed attributes of so called Wolf Warrior diplomacy is China's supposed expansionism and increasing number of disputes with foreign countries... China's territorial disputes and claims have not increased in number or extensiveness during the Xi Administration. People who say this should name what additional claims of territory that China has made.

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No there won't.

What is Hua Chunying's most popular Tweet? This one:


Here she is appealing to the universal value that what happened to George Floyd was wrong, and you shouldn't be a hypocrite. It is not interfering with another country's internal affairs, but it is criticizing how they conduct their internal affairs. If China did more of this it would be so much more popular. The ironic thing is that people all over the world hate Trump with a passion and many hate the US. They are practically crying out for an alternative to rally around. If China even had 10% efficiency in propaganda, they would have x10 more friends already. But some people here are just so unbelievably blind and have no idea how effective PR works & how to get people to like you.

vesicles said:

So here is a conundrum. Everyone will be standing far away and yell at each other: "you come here and fight me!" "No! you come here!" "No! You think I'm a fool? You come to me!" "Nah, I won't! I will stay where I am and you come to me!" So in the end, no fighting and just a shouting match.

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"Come at me, bro!"

manqiangrexue said:

The defeated point you just said right there. Every example, every argument of yours, all of them cherry picked, imaginary, self-contradictory, off topic, incoherent, and peppered with English words that you don't actually understand, gets instantly destroyed, most often by me, and then you have nothing left but to repeat them without actual rebuttal. Your debate is weak, almost as weak as gadget's.

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You can't even apprehend the basics and you are talking about destroying argument. You can't even see how you are as naive as gadgetcool5. You are comical. Like i already said, it is not interesting to discuss with you. Too much fanboyism

escobar said:

You can't even apprehend the basics and you are talking about destroying argument. You can't even see how you are as naive as gadgetcool5. You are comical. Like i already said, it is not interesting to discuss with you. Too much fanboyism

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Just observing your logic and possible motivation. Are you from North Korea or related to anything North Korean? Nothing wrong with that. Just curious as you sound like from there.

question. Let's say China Folded and became a US Vassal... Who do you think is next besides Russia?

escobar said:

You can't even apprehend the basics and you are talking about destroying argument.

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Like I said, I can't and will never understand nonsense incoherent arguments like yours.

escobar said:

You can't even see how you are as naive as gadgetcool5.

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I can't see it and neither can anyone else, nor can you explain why. You can only do as you usually do, which is make unsupported claims over and over again even after they are defeated.

escobar said:

You are comical.

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Fools laugh at everything.

escobar said:

Like i already said, it is not interesting to discuss with you.

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Smart move. If I had Parkinsonian debate skills as you were, I wouldn't be interested in tangling up with someone like me either.

escobar said:

Too much fanboyism

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Too much incoherence from you.