China naval drills in East China Sea

siegecrossbow

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There have been official releases of HQ-16's results against different types of missiles including supersonic and sea skimmers. Consider that these missiles have ties to Sea Crotale and shtil, which are known to have capability to do so comfortably, I don't see why you would think HH-7 and HQ-16 can't.

It's really a basic requirement for today's SAMs to be able to do so.

Which is why you see nations developing hypersonic cruise missiles like the Brahmos?
 

tphuang

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Which is why you see nations developing hypersonic cruise missiles like the Brahmos?

brahmos is not hypersonic. It's just an export variant of Onyx, although probably more advanced than Yakhont. Modern SAMs should have no problem intercepting it.
 

EDIATH

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As HQ16 is launched through VLS, I wonder if that will negatively affect its ability to intercept sea skimmers, in comparison to HQ7's near-horizontal launching pattern I mean?
 

plawolf

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Have a look at the video of the excercise posted a few weeks back. In it you can clearly see even HHQ7s doing a sharp climb before diving down to engage sea skimming targets.

If you think about it, this top attack profile has some distinct advantages compared to a head on engagement as you have reduced closing speeds, and you are also getting a bigger target, both in terms of missile signiture and area to hit, especially if you are using a proximity fuse.
 

Blitzo

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brahmos is not hypersonic. It's just an export variant of Onyx, although probably more advanced than Yakhont. Modern SAMs should have no problem intercepting it.
I think he was talking about the much hyped brahmos II.

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And wow those missile firing pics are cool -- usually we only see USN Arleigh Burke's firing multiple missiles at once. Hopefully we'll see a common VLS for the PLANs' anti-air missiles within this decade to streamline the arsenal.
 

EDIATH

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Have a look at the video of the excercise posted a few weeks back. In it you can clearly see even HHQ7s doing a sharp climb before diving down to engage sea skimming targets.

If you think about it, this top attack profile has some distinct advantages compared to a head on engagement as you have reduced closing speeds, and you are also getting a bigger target, both in terms of missile signiture and area to hit, especially if you are using a proximity fuse.

Thanks a lot for the explanation mate!

I must have confused the functionality of HQ7 with that of RAM, or perhaps even RAM wouldn't follow a near-horizontal trajectory. :)
 

siegecrossbow

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I think he was talking about the much hyped brahmos II.

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And wow those missile firing pics are cool -- usually we only see USN Arleigh Burke's firing multiple missiles at once. Hopefully we'll see a common VLS for the PLANs' anti-air missiles within this decade to streamline the arsenal.

Yes that was what I was referring to thank you. Does a significant increase in the speed of a missile also significantly increase the difficulty of an intercept?
 

plawolf

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No worries. This top attack profile seem to be something new, as that video was the first time i have known of it. In previously release pictures, you can clearly see the HHQ7 taking a fairly flat tragectory, and the HQ7 from which it is developed also does a flat engagement profile.
 
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