China ICBM/SLBM, nuclear arms thread

ismellcopium

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Lol. Why does this read like the the only "intel work" Trump's CIA did was "we measured the
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sound after this test in their giant steel vessel all the way here from Langley, and it was 3.7x10^-12 dB instead of the expected 8.2x10^-13, therefore there must have been a yield!!" Or not even that, just "we see this thing on sat imagery, just a hunch but those sussy bakas must be up to no good inside".

Anyway hopefully Trump "responds" with a full scale test and everyone can stop playing this silly game of keeping the fission yield below 1 pound (lol) while testing.
 

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Account of the DOE visit in 1990 was a nice read so I'll post it separately. Clearly the intent mainly was to signal to the US to take the Chinese weapons program more seriously, little other reason to invite DOE to Lop Nur while it was still an active site conducting detonations. Quite a few nice tidbits & wholesome moments. There's so much natural chemistry between the technical nuclear experts from either country both sides probably also hoped to get the other's guard down in conversation & glean some useful intel lol.
Hopkins: It was essentially everything that we were working on. It was clear that their physics of nuclear weapons was not all that far behind us. Their engineering was not so far along. In trying to make the nuclear weapons in the smallest size with the largest yield, using the smallest amount of materials—these were very difficult things that often took the best numerically controlled machines. The Chinese, in the 1990s, couldn’t do it. Today they can.
Hawkins: Since our visit, one of the things that they’ve done—that we haven’t done—is build modern production facilities. We know from things like satellite imagery that their plutonium pit production facilities are incredibly modern. They still want us to know, at least generally, how far along they are.
That also kind of reads to me like there's been progress in warheads more recently so the ones on ICBMs today may no longer be the ones last tested in the mid-90s ("535/575")?
 

sunnymaxi

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Apparently the russians are working on Mach 3 and beyond nuclear powered cruise missile, a successor to Burevestnik.

Something that i wanted to say for a long time, and perhaps there might be a better topic for this discussion, but i think whatever the logic the russians followed when seeing the need for Burevestnik and Poseidon (basically making sure that they can ensure MAD even in the face of american ABM and other missile defences), it's even more imperative China develop their own equivalents, since it has a much smaller nuclear arsenal than US, hence more vulnerable to being degraded below necessary MAD levels by US ABM and other defences. Given the increasingly erratic and volatile western behaviour, it is not unlikely that decision making actors such as the orange potus and his cronies/handlers might think they can actually win a nuclear war against China because it has much fewer nukes and the US ABM will protect their mainland from most damage. It's an unnerving thought considering the unpredictable behaviour displayed in this last year by the US and western axis.

Hopefully China is already working on such weapons in the shadows.
you have missed couple of new information.. i have Quoted down below for you.

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Otter implies that nuclear warhead count will reach parity with U.S./Russia.
He did not hint at it, but made it clear that the PLA have more than 600 warhead now, and will have way more nuclear warheads than this.

The US military's estimate of 1,500 warheads by 2030 is a serious underestimate, and this number may be revised and recognized in 2027. Which means there will be more deployed warheads than the US and Russia by 2030
First(?) official departure from 60-year-old nuclear posture:

"Accelerate the development of advanced combat capabilities. Strengthen strategic deterrence forces to uphold global strategic balance and stability."

———— The first Agenda of the Military Section in the 15th Five-Year Plan of CCP


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