China ICBM/SLBM, nuclear arms thread

leibowitz

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There is wide spectrum of potential ICBM strikes coming against you. It could be one ICBM, a few ICBM to a full blown first strike with 100s of ICBMS. It could be 1 ICBM exploding with nuke in an empty field (just as a warning). It could be a warning shot on a military target, again as a warning.

Are you going to do a full retaliatory strike with mass ICBMs of your own for all of these scenarios?

No, you are going to wait, assess the situation, think about all the geopolitical implications and then take action. Your own action could be proportional or disproportional depending on your goals. A full blown retaliatory strike is like suicide bombing, so your probably not going to that unless you are already sure that you are dead anyway.

Anyways, as I said before, this is my opinion based on my current understanding of world politics, and ofcourse China's own nuclear policy. We can agree to disagree.
1 ICBM could be doing X-ray pindown above your own ICBM fields
 

RoastGooseHKer

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That assumption was only made by lazy US "analysts". Most on here expected a new, much bigger ICBM than DF31 for the silos.
Sino MX Peacekeeper? The MX’s diameter was only marginally bigger than those of the DF-41 whilst having roughly the same length. So we are talking about a silo-based thing with a diameter bigger than those of the MX but shorter? In other words, compared to the DF-41, it is also clumsier due to lack of mobility/exercise and sitting inside a silo. As a result, gentlemen, may I propose calling this new ICBM “FAT MAN”?
 

Blitzo

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Sino MX Peacekeeper? The MX’s diameter was only marginally bigger than those of the DF-41 whilst having roughly the same length. So we are talking about a silo-based thing with a diameter bigger than those of the MX but shorter? In other words, compared to the DF-41, it is also clumsier due to lack of mobility/exercise and sitting inside a silo. As a result, gentlemen, may I propose calling this new ICBM “FAT MAN”?

We'll know its real name soon enough, which will probably provide us some info as to what kind of relationship it may have with DF-41 (vs DF-31A etc), if any.

Being shorter than the DF-41 canister may not necessarily mean a lot; there is a possibility this new silo loader doesn't have the cold launch ejection mechanism as part of its reload canister on the vehicle (whereas DF-41 of course has it integrated in its canister because it's a TEL).
 

Jason_

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We'll know its real name soon enough, which will probably provide us some info as to what kind of relationship it may have with DF-41 (vs DF-31A etc), if any.

Being shorter than the DF-41 canister may not necessarily mean a lot; there is a possibility this new silo loader doesn't have the cold launch ejection mechanism as part of its reload canister on the vehicle (whereas DF-41 of course has it integrated in its canister because it's a TEL).
Cute Orca implied that the canister contains only the first two or three stages and does not contain the nose cone or PBV. In other words, the full missile will be wider and longer than the DF-41.
 
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