China ICBM/SLBM, nuclear arms thread

Kalec

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Although, it is not strictly nuclear arm - related but part of NC3, it is rumored that China will launch the fifth GEO EW satellite next week.
Someone else said the rumored satellite could actually be China's first GEOSAR satellite, a 20m-resolution one on GEO orbit.

Can someone explain a bit about the conversion of 12th Armored Brigade? I have an answer in mind but don't know quite much about the context.
More importantly, my early guess turned out to be true.

PLAGF 12th Armored Brigade has transformed into Yumen Silo ICBM Brigade, in charge of most valuable strategic asset from China.
 

antiterror13

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Someone else said the rumored satellite could actually be China's first GEOSAR satellite, a 20m-resolution one on GEO orbit.


More importantly, my early guess turned out to be true.

PLAGF 12th Armored Brigade has transformed into Yumen Silo ICBM Brigade, in charge of most valuable strategic asset from China.

@Kalec , please tell us what is the implication to Chinese military capability of having "
GEOSAR satellite, a 20m-resolution one on GEO orbit." ? is it significant ?
 

Michaelsinodef

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@Kalec , please tell us what is the implication to Chinese military capability of having "
GEOSAR satellite, a 20m-resolution one on GEO orbit." ? is it significant ?
GEO orbit should be a geostationary orbit, which is basically about the farthest a satelite can be while still 'being near' earth.

And it also means it will also have a 24h coverage of whatever it points to (comes with the word stationary), and being so far away it would have a very big and wide field.

It could potentially monitor everything from Philippines to northern Japan 24h/7, although with a 20m resolution (modern GPS is like 1m resolution or less in comparison, but those satelites are much closer with smaller field of views and revisit times)
 

antiterror13

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GEO orbit should be a geostationary orbit, which is basically about the farthest a satelite can be while still 'being near' earth.

And it also means it will also have a 24h coverage of whatever it points to (comes with the word stationary), and being so far away it would have a very big and wide field.

It could potentially monitor everything from Philippines to northern Japan 24h/7, although with a 20m resolution (modern GPS is like 1m resolution or less in comparison, but those satelites are much closer with smaller field of views and revisit times)

So potentially by launching more of this type satellite can cover more or better resolution.

Does it mean that PLA now can monitor potential enemy warship or CBG constantly from within First & second island chain ?

I think China should launch more of these satellites, perhaps the next generation can do 10 or even 5m resolution and plus multiple backup satellites for redundancy


I think what you meant is spy satellites instead of "GPS" .... just different function and purpose
 

sunnymaxi

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So potentially by launching more of this type satellite can cover more or better resolution.

Does it mean that PLA now can monitor potential enemy warship or CBG constantly from within First & second island chain ?

I think China should launch more of these satellites, perhaps the next generation can do 10 or even 5m resolution and plus multiple backup satellites for redundancy


I think what you meant is spy satellites instead of "GPS" .... just different function and purpose
waiting for @Kalec answer though..

This is 5th Early warning satellite for ICBM/nukes by China. 4 already in the orbit. China will launch one more so total 6 will be more than enough to cover entire globe. might launch two more EWS after 2024-25 .

Russia have 6 EWS

US has total 10 EWS

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screenshot from kalec sir ..
 
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Kalec

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waiting for @Kalec answer though..

This is 5th Early warning satellite for ICBM/nukes by China. 4 already in the orbit. China will launch one more so total 6 will be more than enough to cover entire globe. might launch two more EWS after 2024-25 .

Russia have 6 EWS

US has total 10 EWS

screenshot from kalec sir ..
I am sorry that I need to correct myself. If it is indeed a GEOSAR satellite, then it won't be an EW radar. I mean it is definitely that China is gonna launch something military into GEO orbit tomorrow but ppl are arguing what it is exactly.

In fact I haven't found GEOSAR public inf so far, and if I am not mistaken, could this one be the first of its kind launched ever? GEOSAR would have much strategic value on tracking movable targets in a continuous manner with a short re-visiting time gap. We should know more about what it can do when US INT group whines about it later on.

The civilian designation is rumored to be Land Probing-04A, indicating there is at least one more of its kinds pending.
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btw China currently has 6 active EWS.
4 in GEO orbit namely TJS-2, TJS-5, TJS-6, TJS-7 with another TJS-8 expected but not launched yet
2 in HEO orbit, Shiyan-10-01, Shiyan-10-02. There should be at least one more in HEO expected in the near future to maintain all day coverage over the Northern pole.
Then it is not unclear that if China is going to move to LEO/MEO orbit for the next-gen EWS as US is planning to do.
 

sunnymaxi

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I am sorry that I need to correct myself. If it is indeed a GEOSAR satellite, then it won't be an EW radar. I mean it is definitely that China is gonna launch something military into GEO orbit tomorrow but ppl are arguing what it is exactly.

In fact I haven't found GEOSAR public inf so far, and if I am not mistaken, could this one be the first of its kind launched ever? GEOSAR would have much strategic value on tracking movable targets in a continuous manner with a short re-visiting time gap. We should know more about what it can do when US INT group whines about it later on.

The civilian designation is rumored to be Land Probing-04A, indicating there is at least one more of its kinds pending.
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btw China currently has 6 active EWS.
4 in GEO orbit namely TJS-2, TJS-5, TJS-6, TJS-7 with another TJS-8 expected but not launched yet
2 in HEO orbit, Shiyan-10-01, Shiyan-10-02. There should be at least one more in HEO expected in the near future to maintain all day coverage over the Northern pole.
Then it is not unclear that if China is going to move to LEO/MEO orbit for the next-gen EWS as US is planning to do.
thank you sir for giving valuable information..
 

nativechicken

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China is currently the second largest producer of nuclear fuel in the world. We plan to achieve production levels close to Russia by 2030.
China's SWU capability can achieve 4.41-5.9 tons of weapon grade nuclear enriched raw materials for every 1000 tons of SWU produced. Currently, China has at least 10 kt of SWU production capacity per year (for civilian nuclear power plants)
The theory of 1kg U235 fully releasing energy is equivalent to the power of 20000t TNT explosive, and the utilization rate of China's initial nuclear bomb U235 exceeded 15-20%. The current technical level is unclear about the energy conversion ratio per kilogram. Someone told me that at least 8000 tons can be converted.
The hemisphere of the nuclear charge disclosed by China's nuclear weapons has specifications of 4, 6, and 15 kg (which are available in the Chinese public literature on the determination of the lifespan of nuclear weapons, but the specific types of data are unclear). China only needs 1000t SWU devices for nuclear weapons production, and the warheads produced in a year can be stepped on.
If China wants a comprehensive nuclear confrontation with the United States. The existing nuclear enrichment capability can produce thousands of small equivalent nuclear warheads (2x4kg=8kg, 8x8000=64000t TNT warheads) in just one year.
After 2020, several core units in China's solid launch vehicle development (CASC航天科技, CASIC航天科工, CAS SPACE中科宇航) have all built new production lines for 30 rounds of 100 ton solid launch vehicles (totaling 3x30=90). That is to say, China currently has the ability to produce 100 units of LGM-118A Peacekeeper per year.
The production capacity of periodic missile shells is not actually a problem, and the cycle of fuel filling and solidification is more worth studying.
The picture shows the production capacity construction plan of China's SWU
And the annual production capacity of China's low enriched uranium SWU conversion for weapon grade enriched uranium.

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