China Flanker Thread II

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Helius

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I think the interface of PLAAF's Su-30mkk and Su-35 are also in Russian. It was about the monitor being too small for Chinese charactors. I read that from a magazine and can not provide the source tho.
I can't say for sure on the Su-35, but the MKK (Modernizirovannyi Kommercheskiy Kitayski) is a bespoke Chinese Flanker, with bespoke Chinese avionics. I don't think it would make much sense to have it in Russian still.
 

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I can't say for sure on the Su-35, but the MKK (Modernizirovannyi Kommercheskiy Kitayski) is a bespoke Chinese Flanker, with bespoke Chinese avionics. I don't think it would make much sense to have it in Russian still.
Requesting Chinese interface would result in extra development time and perhaps problems like the display designed for Cyrillic script being too small for Chinese charactor.
 

Helius

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Requesting Chinese interface would result in extra development time and perhaps problems like the display designed for Cyrillic script being too small for Chinese charactor.
How would you know the MKK had "display designed for Cyrillic script" though, and not Chinese MFDs like all of their domestic Flankers?
 

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How would you know the MKK had "display designed for Cyrillic script" though, and not Chinese MFDs like all of their domestic Flankers?
I think it's up to you to convince others why russian made MKK would have chinese MFD. Never mention it was developed in last century way before MFD gets popular.
 

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I think it's up to you to convince others why russian made MKK would have chinese MFD. Never mention it was developed in last century way before MFD gets popular.
Source photos are too low res to make out whether avionics are labelled in Chinese or not, but at least the MFDs are there-

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don't take these as gospel, there are some Chinese blogger claim all Su series display are in Russian. There were efforts to convert the Su-35 display to Chinese, because it's interphase need to display complex commands, such as flight path suggested by AI and it would better integrate Su-35 to Chinese central command, but change the display was proven to be too difficult

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don't take these as gospel, there are some Chinese blogger claim all Su series display are in Russian. There were efforts to convert the Su-35 display to Chinese, because it's interphase need to display complex commands, such as flight path suggested by AI and it would better integrate Su-35 to Chinese central command, but change the display was proven to be too difficult

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I think the interface of PLAAF's Su-30mkk and Su-35 are also in Russian. It was about the monitor being too small for Chinese charactors. I read that from a magazine and can not provide the source tho.

That's interesting. Looks like there's credence to Chinese characters being too small on Russian-spec MFDs after all -

最大问题在于中文需要较大的显示面积,如果面积不够就会模糊不清。

经过1年时间反复研究,他们发现只能更换比较大的显示屏才可以解决。但苏35是现代化战机,任何零件的更换均是牵一发而动全身,根本不能随便去做。即便强行更换了,就需要重新对飞机进行性能的测试,这又要漫长的时间。

最终没有进行汉化工作,保留了原来的俄文显示。

The biggest problem is that Chinese requires a large display area, and if the area is not enough, it will be blurred.

After a year of repeated research, they found that the solution could only be replaced by a larger display. However, the Su-35 is a modern fighter, and the replacement of any parts will affect the whole body at one stroke, and it cannot be done casually. Even if it is forcibly replaced, it is necessary to re-test the performance of the aircraft, which takes a long time.

In the end, no Chineseization work was carried out, and the original Russian display was retained.

Though that makes me wonder if the cockpit of domestic batches of the J-11 even have the same instruments as the Su-27 variant then, with all else presumably being the same/similar.

Does swapping out Russian-built avionics with Chinese-built affect the whole rig like the Su-35 as reported then?
 
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