FWS-10.
Russia has refused to provide AL-31Fs for any J-11B variants, so the domestic engine is the only option.As we know, there is no purchase of any AL-31F in recent years. J-11B are in production for both PLAAF and PLAN...
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FWS-10.
Russia has refused to provide AL-31Fs for any J-11B variants, so the domestic engine is the only option.As we know, there is no purchase of any AL-31F in recent years. J-11B are in production for both PLAAF and PLAN...
RedMercury
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Any info on rate? One or two regiments a year?
【联合报╱记者李志德／综合报导】 2010.05.19 03:36 am
最新一期「汉和防务评论」月刊报导，中国大陆自俄罗斯引进技术，自行生产的「歼11B」型战机，由于在试飞时出现异常抖动，海、空军拒绝验收。这一批飞机，当前还存放在沈阳飞机公司的机库中，等待军方和车间协调解决之道。
总部位于香港的汉和月刊，在报导中引述西方国家监听的属性指出，2009年沈阳飞机公司生产的第二批歼11生产完毕，原本计划装备一个大队，约架飞机。
在海、空军试飞员验收时，飞机在空中发生异常抖动，飞行员回报地面：「飞机发生颤动！」最后，海、空军拒绝接收这一批战机。
报导指出，当前军方和沈阳飞机公司仍在协调中，这批飞机截至去年底之前，依然滞留沈阳厂机库。但报导指出，一位来自大陆的专家，四月被问道此事时宣称，异常抖动问题已经解决。
汉和月刊聘请的航空技术顾问认为，出现异常抖动，通常较可能是电传操纵系统出现问题；也不排除是操纵系统与发动机集成问题。报导引述消息源指出，第二批歼11依然使用俄罗斯原厂发动机，为该型机设计的新型数位电传操纵系统，在设计时可能面临无法突破的技术问题。
报导指出，虽然大陆成都飞机公司掌握了数位电传操纵系统技术，但基于沈飞和成飞的竞争关系，成飞是不可能将这部分技术给转移给沈飞的。
according to kanwa, the problem was flight control system.other was competition between Chengdu and shenyang,it is unlikely chengdu will transfer the technology to shenyang,
that's complete nonsense. I don't even recall reading that article and I've read every recent edition of kanwa. That article itself also makes no sense because there is no such a competition within AVIC1.
more like one a year. initially J-10 production line was 2-3 planes a month, giving that a regiment a year. so taking from initial production rates, though difference between chengdu and shenyang i would also follow the 2-3 plane/month production capacity. on the side from recollection shenyang release photo of j-11 without engines, saying its not the problem producing the fighter, its powering them thats an issue.
EDIATH
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Considering the cost, one regiment for PLAAF per year & one regiment for PLANAF every 1.5-2 years is a reasonable estimation. It's really up to the defense budget in stead of the manufacturer.
If Liming does increase the capacity of engine production, it might be for J10's sake other than J11.
plawolf
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Won't be the first time Challenge has doctored stories or blatantly lied about what they say.
guess what, is all over the chinese website, your accusation is like cursing the massenger that bring the bad news. I simple repeating what they said.and I do not invent it.
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qaulity control is a big problem,just few years ago, algeria force return newly purchased MIG-29 to russia after defect been detected, India and China also complain to russia about the quality of AL-31F jet engine. USAF also discover the fuselage of F-15C suffer from matal fatique,after 2 of her F-15 break apart in mid air. not to mention other such as USN A-7 and F-18A (solfware problem)
国产歼11B异常振动 解放军拒收货(图)
(博讯北京时间2010年5月20日 转载)
来源：凤凰网
国产歼11B异常振动 解放军拒收货
据熟悉中国军事动向的专业杂志《汉和防务评论》（总部设在加拿大）最新的6月号称，中国军系国有飞机生产商生产的16架新型战斗机“歼 -11B”因飞行时发生异常振动等原因，被军方拒绝收货。
共同社报道，据称，“歼-11B”由中方以俄罗斯战斗机“苏-27”技术为基础开发而成，中俄双方曾就知识产权问题有过纷争，此次飞行中产生的问题可能意味着这一技术转换面临失败。
负责制造的是位于辽宁省的“沈阳飞机”公司，2009年共生产16架。但交货前夕，空军飞行员在试飞该战斗机时飞机发生振动，因而军方拒绝收货。
《汉和防务评论》称，之前四川省一家飞机制造商获得了“苏-27”的许可生产“歼-11A”。3年前中国开始“自主开发”改良机型“歼 -11B”，但俄方则认为此举属于技术盗用。该杂志指出，去年10月中国60周年国庆阅兵时并未公开“歼-11B”也是由于上述技术问题之故。 _(网文转载) (博讯 boxun.com)
nothing new..same as i have posted.
(博讯北京时间2010年5月20日 转载)
来源：凤凰网
国产歼11B异常振动 解放军拒收货
据熟悉中国军事动向的专业杂志《汉和防务评论》（总部设在加拿大）最新的6月号称，中国军系国有飞机生产商生产的16架新型战斗机“歼 -11B”因飞行时发生异常振动等原因，被军方拒绝收货。
共同社报道，据称，“歼-11B”由中方以俄罗斯战斗机“苏-27”技术为基础开发而成，中俄双方曾就知识产权问题有过纷争，此次飞行中产生的问题可能意味着这一技术转换面临失败。
负责制造的是位于辽宁省的“沈阳飞机”公司，2009年共生产16架。但交货前夕，空军飞行员在试飞该战斗机时飞机发生振动，因而军方拒绝收货。
《汉和防务评论》称，之前四川省一家飞机制造商获得了“苏-27”的许可生产“歼-11A”。3年前中国开始“自主开发”改良机型“歼 -11B”，但俄方则认为此举属于技术盗用。该杂志指出，去年10月中国60周年国庆阅兵时并未公开“歼-11B”也是由于上述技术问题之故。 _(网文转载) (博讯 boxun.com)
nothing new..same as i have posted.
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