China Flanker Thread II

[asif iqbal]

Well those original Su27 arrived in early 1990s

It's still less than 30 years and China has extensive rebuild and overhaul capacity of the Flanker

I wouldn't expect them to go so soon but the 1st batch of 26 ( 20 x SK and 6 x UBK) are certainly the ones to go first

 

[Hyperwarp]

Unlike the J-11B, the J-16 also needs to deal with ground/surface targets on a regular basis. I don't think it's radar will be configured the same way on the J-11B.

F/A-18E/F, F-22 and F-35 all have canted AESA placement but the older planes don't. Mitsubishi F-2, F-16 BLK 60 AESA are placed conventionally and the F-16 AN/APG-83 (SABR?) upgrade is also like that. Same goes to the F-15 and the APG-63(V)3 and so on.

So it is possible older aircraft like the J-10A, J-11B might get upgrades like AN/APG-83 and APG-63(V)3.

 

[FORBIN]

Interesting that China reopened J-11B production line. Will it produce 1 regiment a year as well or with lower number?

What happened to J-11D production line?

There were rumors about PLAAF imported Flankers having shorter-than-expected service lives, which could potentially explain the resumption of J-11B production. J-11D has been delayed but according to recent claims and satellite photos still active (~5 prototypes allegedly built).

Exact replace first Su-27 now the 2 first batch surely get retired and complete also staffing in others units i can't say but my feeling is for a little production max 10 by year
siegecrossbow
Please

Many Flankers variants in same topic can be an idea for see more clealry

J-16
Su-27/J-11/J-11A
J-11B and new

Or at less a new for J-16​

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[Hendrik_2000]

Here is alleged photo of J 11D from Henri K
The photos of J-11D are rather rare these days ...

 

[Quickie]

if I am not mistaken the AESA radar on J-11 is using a straight (not sloped) radome. The F16 upgrade (AN/APG-80) radome is also straight.

I tend to think so. If the original J-11 radome is long enough to accomodate a canted AESA radar, there's then no need for the radome to be changed to have a canted outline.

 

[plawolf]

Also worth remembering that the Su27 radome swings up to open, and iirc, so does the J11’s.

Canted onlines are generally found on side swinging radomes, where the hinge line matches the positioning of the radar antenna.

 

[Deino]

At Cangzhou

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[Deino]

Here more ... but serials not visible

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[Deino]

... interesting is the light grey instrument/cockpit shield instead of the J-11BS' black one.

 

[Deino]

hmm ...

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OedoSoldier thinks they are from the 97th Brigade, but that would be the first AR (former 97th AR) assigned to the 33rd Air Division, a former J-7E-unit. I thought this J-11BS is one of those with 78x8x from the 177th Brigade?

What do You think?

Deino