China Flanker Thread II

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Some of these claims seem to run contrary to physical observations we can make. For example, it's hard to believe they'll need to import a Russian IRST when the J-10B already seems to have a domestic one.

the IRST may come from ural optical firm in russia,report that the firm is seeking cooperation with chinese firm, possible co production.
Chinese version may incorporate some innovation, such Gen-3 quantum wells focal plane array detector.
 

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Surely not ... these are pure and simply standard fighter-Flankers and only one has a taller tail, what makes me suspicious.

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... slightly better version + some explanations ...

Besides that ... are there any speculations about their assigment ??
Since most fighter units received either updated J-8H or even F ... one possibility seems remaining J-7II-regiment maybe Jialaishi (8th Fighter Division/24h Air Regiment) and numbers 83x8x !


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... slightly better version + some explanations ...

Besides that ... are there any speculations about their assigment ??
Since most fighter units received either updated J-8H or even F ... one possibility seems remaining J-7II-regiment maybe Jialaishi (8th Fighter Division/24h Air Regiment) and numbers 83x8x !


Deino

not sure... but the aircraft on the left look like has different airtake ,second her upper fuselage is slighly bigger.
but again, the picture is simple blurr....
 

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not sure... but the aircraft on the left look like has different airtake ,second her upper fuselage is slighly bigger.
but again, the picture is simple blurr....

Agreed ... but it looks different because of the other J-11B standing behind it. As such the typical Flanker's deeper intake can't be seen.

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简氏防务:中国正生产海军版歼-11战机反舰能力强大
2010-05-11 10:05:51 来源: 网友评论 0 条

简氏称网络上出现了一批为海航生产的浅灰色涂装歼-11B
新一期出版的《简氏防务周刊》(Jane's Defence Weekly)刊载题为“海军版歼-11公开现身”的文章,文章提到近期军事网站的几张图片显示,一款为中国海军航空兵研制的新型单座(歼-11BH)和双座(歼-11BSH)歼-11战斗机很可能正在生产之中,并涂有与现役海航苏-30MKK2类似的浅灰色涂装;文章还提到歼-11B不久将配备一款新型的有源相控阵雷达,这款雷达可能也在歼-10B上采用;简氏评论说,解放军海航部队装备歼-11B战机之后或将对日本自卫队的F-15和F-2战机构成更大挑战;简氏还认为,歼-11BH可为歼-11B航母舰载版战斗机提供充足的备选飞行员。
文章首先说,在今年5月份的早些时候,有中国军事网站刊发了沈飞(the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation)厂房之外的几张图片,图片显示有一款新型的为中国海军航空兵(the People's Liberation Army Navy Air Force)研制的单座和双座型歼-11战斗机很可能正在生产之中。
文章分析说,这些图片中显示,这批歼-11采用的是一种与中国人民海军航空兵所装备苏-30MKK2战斗机相契合的浅灰色涂装,文章提到的这批24架(配备一个团)苏-30是在2004年交付的。据报道,这批单座的歼-11被称为歼-11BH,这是歼-11B系列的新型号,而歼-11B则是沈飞对苏-27SK相当大的改进版本,沈飞在1998年(与俄方)签署协议之后开始组装苏-27SK战机。与歼-11BH相伴随的还有双座版本,可以从近期这几张照片中那较高的双垂尾得以确认。据说,在人民解放军海军航空兵当中,这种双座战机将被称为歼-11BSH。文章还提到,俄罗斯方面对中国“挪用”苏霍伊设计的做法颇为不满,俄罗斯方面还对中国是否能够“复制”苏-27SK并继续生产其改进版本(比如航母舰载版本)多次表现出怀疑态度。
文章还说,据报道,歼-11B的机体比俄罗斯原先的设计要略轻一些,可能更多的采用了复合材料,并配备了中国设计的新型雷达系统,该型战机还挂载有中国设计的空空导弹,比如雷达制导的洛阳(空空导弹研究院)研制的PL-12。还有消息暗示说,歼-11B不久将配备一款新型的有源相控阵雷达(AESA),这款雷达可能也被成飞的歼-10B上采用。一些近期的图片显示,解放军空军的歼-11B战机或将最终接收中国设计的WS-10A“太行”高性能涡扇发动机,这款发动机的研发和生产是中国航空部门自从上世纪90年代早期就开始要完成的一个种重要目标。
文章提到,至于新式的歼-11战机是否会补充或者替换中国较为老式的歼-8B/D战斗机,目前还不清楚;另据报道,人民解放军海军航空兵部队配备有两个团的歼-8B/D战斗机。与歼-8相比,海航正在获得的歼-11BH战斗机是一款战斗潜力更为强大的新式平台,无论是多功能性还是机动性方面都是如此。
简氏还说,海军航空兵的歼-11战机很可能具有威力强大的反舰能力,可以作为现役五个团的歼轰-7战斗轰炸机的补充。作为一款陆基战斗机更多使用的歼-11BH还将确保为期待中的歼-11B舰载版本战斗机提供持续不断的备选飞行员,歼-11B舰载版本战斗机吸收了苏-33航母舰载战斗机的特点。
简氏还评论说,鉴于中国海军近期的演习动作,假定中的海军版歼-11的出现确实值得注意,中国海军近期在靠近日本海域的举动前所未有,在2010年4月份,来自东海舰队和北海舰队的大约10艘水面舰艇和潜艇,起初在战斗机和预警飞机的支援下,航向靠近日本冲绳的海域,中国海军航空兵的卡-32舰载直升机靠近日本海上自卫队驱逐舰不足9米。与此前装备的战机相比,解放军海航部队的歼-11B战机或将对日本自卫队的F-15和F-2战机构成更大挑战。

the left side of the picture was identified as J-11BH and possible twin seater J-11BSH.according to the report J-11BH will be fitted with locally design AESA,and possible J-10
 

yehe

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AESA radar on J-11BH?? if it is true it will be a big news

It has been speculated for years now, it was said that during negotiation a couple years ago, one of the main reason China told the Russians about the inadequity of the SU33 were that it doesnt have AESA thus incapable of counter modern USAF, thats the reason China dont want to buy Su33 in any larger quantities.

But since J10B also seems to be equipt with AESA, no reason why J11BH cant, consider the size of the nose, the J11BH should have a even more powerful radar.
 

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few day before the oct.1 military parade.Chinese website claim that radar on J-11B has max. range of 350km.
the article is short,do not mention what kind of radar, it is now more likely the article may be refering to AESA.
 

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few day before the oct.1 military parade.Chinese website claim that radar on J-11B has max. range of 350km.
the article is short,do not mention what kind of radar, it is now more likely the article may be refering to AESA.

Can you post a link to that website?
 
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