escobar
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N001 twisted cassegrain radar.
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WS-10 test plane at CFTE
China Flanker Thread II
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N001 twisted cassegrain radar.
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WS-10 test plane at CFTE
its not just a question of proud. There will be a high cost to adquire a whole bunch of su-35. These things are not cheap. And besides there will be a high political cost too. china already has the j-20. buying su-27 variants now would look really bad
plawolf
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What high political cost would that be?
Personally, I highly doubt the Su35 buy as well because it clashes with the J11B, and it makes no sense logistically to buy a small number (I don't even think the Russian fanboys dare suggest a massive order). They might buy one or two for study like they were willing with the Su33, but that is still a stretch.
Does Russia still owe China foreign debt? I suppose if Russia came to China and asked for China to forgive those debts or offered weapons as a means to pay them off, China might just say yes so at least they get something for the debt.
Although if that was the case, there are plenty of more useful things the PLA could use instead of Su35s, like heavy transports/tankers, more weapons for their existing Su30s or even the Su34 would all be a much better choice than Su35s.
I agree to all your points. But could there be another angle to this deal, if there actually will be a deal, and I highly doubt it: China and Russia are buddies nowadays, China will suport Russia whenever it can. Now Russia badly want to sell Su-35's for cash and for market share, Would China buy a few just to help them out?
escobar
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buying just a few will not really help them. If china want to support russia better buy a big number.
plawolf
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Before we get too far ahead of ourselves, just what exactly is there in terms of 'evidence' for these Su35 claims?
There is a massive between China saying 'we want Su35s, give us a quote' and China saying, 'send over the technical details of the Su35 for us to have a look over'.
I could easily see China asking for detailed performance information on the Su35 as a means to assess how good their own J11Bs are being overblown into 'China wants to buy Su35s' but the Russian fanboys in the Russian and western media.
There is a massive between China saying 'we want Su35s, give us a quote' and China saying, 'send over the technical details of the Su35 for us to have a look over'.
I could easily see China asking for detailed performance information on the Su35 as a means to assess how good their own J11Bs are being overblown into 'China wants to buy Su35s' but the Russian fanboys in the Russian and western media.
Hehe, I didn't mean directly helping them financially. But China's buying a few could be interpreted to mean that Su-35 is better than J-11B (at least the Chinese need to learn something from it), and J-20 is probably facing problems... hence proving that Su-35 is indeed a great buy to the (actually) intended buyer.
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We've seen absolutely no evidence at all to support the claim by that article. The weird thing is: Everybody, including China's many websites, is forwarding that precious article.
The Chinese fanboys, bad as they are, were joking that the Russians are on it again setting up a trap for a certain country that's been on a shopping spree for some time now... Hehe...
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