China Flanker Thread II

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kroko

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China really needs a small scale conflict with some south Asian countries to further boost development in these type of planes. Without demand, it will take a long time for this to enter service and even longer for a new generation of naval fighters.

Wars improve a nation's military. War tries out the equipment and training out for the first time in real life. The United States military learned a ton from World War II, the Korean and Vietnam Wars, the Persian Gulf War, and the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. The U.S. military has a changed a lot just since 2003. A military without a war to fight is like a football team that only scrimmages against itself. War separates the good equipment from the useless, good leaders from bad, good tactics from bad, etc. Tactics that worked in carefully arranged exercises often fail against a real, thinking enemy. The U.S. military is the most dominant in the world partly because it has an incredible amount of war-fighting experience. China has nothing since 1979. Nothing! Is there a single Chinese officer at the rank of Colonel or lower that has seen combat? I would guess not. They call it "battle-tested" for a reason.

hey you people want a war ? go fight in one and come back to tell the story (if you can).

Besides a war by itself doesnt make a army powerfull. experience yes, but not powerfull. And it depends on the experience. What does the wars in afeghanistan and iraq tell the US about a possible scenario involving china or russia.

Finally the J-15 in NAVY-grey ! :p

Hard to say if it is j-15. Perhabs, but im not sure. The photo is not clear enough to be 100% sure.
 
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Deino

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...Hard to say if it is j-15. Perhabs, but im not sure. The photo is not clear enough to be 100% sure.

It is ... look at the off-set IRST-dome, the short sting, the different flaps ...
 

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Hard to say if it is j-15. Perhabs, but im not sure. The photo is not clear enough to be 100% sure.

How about now?

From CJDBY via =GT @ CDF:
 

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Besides this WS-10A question and in mind of a similar coloured bird behind that one ... are there already more than one J-15 and are these already serial propoduction or at least pre-serials or simply the painted first prootype ?

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Ohhh come one ... it surely has canards !

Still not convinced ?

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