It is a surprise to me that the WVR are same as on J10. They have huge RCS (not that it bothers a flying door like the Flanker) and the range is rather limited compared to other Russian options. At the same time I would have expected these WVR on the JF17. They surely never showed up there. Is it because China signed an agreement with Israel or something totally unknown? I have to agree that China does not send this latest tech to Pakistan.Why sending J10 and SD10 if this minor issue is very strict? I am not intrested in discussion whether who gets what or latest but it surprises me that this particular WVR is a very clear non delivery item...
China Flanker Thread II
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Both are WS-10/10A. The more silvery gloss of the nozzles is a sure giveaway, not to mention them being much shorter than that of the AL-31.
Can anyone please give here a "correct translation" ...
via "Bing" it would be:
Are these the current or planned J-11B-units ...
1. unit = 1. Division/1. Regiment at Anshan/Pulandian --- but why Anshan/Pulandian
2. unit = ?. Division/?. Regiment at Pulandian --- there's an unknown J-7-regiment, but what unit ?
3. unit = PLNAF a unit at "LYG" --- could that be "Laiyang", but there are the Y-8 EW's based ?!!
Thanks, Deino
via "Bing" it would be:
Are these the current or planned J-11B-units ...
1. unit = 1. Division/1. Regiment at Anshan/Pulandian --- but why Anshan/Pulandian
2. unit = ?. Division/?. Regiment at Pulandian --- there's an unknown J-7-regiment, but what unit ?
3. unit = PLNAF a unit at "LYG" --- could that be "Laiyang", but there are the Y-8 EW's based ?!!
Thanks, Deino
Can anyone please give here a "correct translation" ...
via "Bing" it would be:
Are these the current or planned J-11B-units ...
1. unit = 1. Division/1. Regiment at Anshan/Pulandian --- but why Anshan/Pulandian
2. unit = ?. Division/?. Regiment at Pulandian --- there's an unknown J-7-regiment, but what unit ?
3. unit = PLNAF a unit at "LYG" --- could that be "Laiyang", but there are the Y-8 EW's based ?!!
Thanks, Deino
Hey, can't help you with most of that stuff, but LYG is LianYunGang, which used to station a training regiment of J-6's, I think?
I think they are referring to the production batch (J-10 is on the 6th batch right now for example). The first one uses AL-31F is stationed at Anshan. The second batch is the first ones that use WS-10A and they should be sent to Pulandian. The third batch is the first one for the navy. They should be the J-11BS we saw in the previous pictures for LYG. According to that link, it's referring to 连云港 (Lianyungang in Jiangsu). This apparently used to be a J-6 training regiment under the Jinan MR. I guess it has now been handed to the navy.Can anyone please give here a "correct translation" ...
via "Bing" it would be:
Are these the current or planned J-11B-units ...
1. unit = 1. Division/1. Regiment at Anshan/Pulandian --- but why Anshan/Pulandian
2. unit = ?. Division/?. Regiment at Pulandian --- there's an unknown J-7-regiment, but what unit ?
3. unit = PLNAF a unit at "LYG" --- could that be "Laiyang", but there are the Y-8 EW's based ?!!
Thanks, Deino
The PLAAF J-11BS we saw are probably in the third batch too and maybe sent to fill up the Pulandian regiment and/or providing some twin-seaters for Anshan regiment or for something else. Please note that just because they have seemingly created 3 regiments, that means there are 72 operational J-11B/S. A lot of the flanker regiments in PLAAF are combined with different variants of flankers. Twin seaters are also at premium, so they get distributed around.
LYG is probably referring to two seaters (J-11BS) or it could be referring to J-11BS using Taihang engine. I'm not sure about it yet, but it is not related to the location of the regiment imo.
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Could there eventually be a "Silent Flanker" thanks to the JXX/J-20 program ???
Now that pictures of the Jxx/J-20 have been showing up that points to the use of all moving canted tails, I'm surprised that no pictures of a demonstrator aircraft with all moving canted tails (possibly a modified J-11) have been snapped up over the years. If any such aircraft did/does exist and if they used the J-11 as the platform to test some of the experimental features of the J-20, then I hope that any useful features gleaned from the project eventually finds its way to the J-15/carrier Flanker program as it would be awesome if the Chinese could also get an equivalent of the F-15 "Silent Eagle", a "Silent Flanker" if you will, out of the J-20 project. If that were to happen, talk about optimization of resources!
Now that pictures of the Jxx/J-20 have been showing up that points to the use of all moving canted tails, I'm surprised that no pictures of a demonstrator aircraft with all moving canted tails (possibly a modified J-11) have been snapped up over the years. If any such aircraft did/does exist and if they used the J-11 as the platform to test some of the experimental features of the J-20, then I hope that any useful features gleaned from the project eventually finds its way to the J-15/carrier Flanker program as it would be awesome if the Chinese could also get an equivalent of the F-15 "Silent Eagle", a "Silent Flanker" if you will, out of the J-20 project. If that were to happen, talk about optimization of resources!
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