China depends less on Russian Technology

bladerunner

Banned Idiot
Reliability is the main concern at the moment. Talking about long on ideas can you explain why the wings of the Su47 is switched around, they look as if theyve been place backwards. I wonder what can be achieved by this?
 

Vlad Plasmius

Junior Member
3. I don't know what you mean by "leading edge" technology since China has already demonstrated leading edge technology like that ASAT trial.

If by "leading" edge you mean something the U.S. and Russia accomplished four decades ago. Granted, China does seem to be closer in the laser department.
 

crobato

Colonel
VIP Professional
If by "leading" edge you mean something the U.S. and Russia accomplished four decades ago. Granted, China does seem to be closer in the laser department.

Except what China did was much higher than anyone did (860km vs. 525km). Also what Russia did was co-orbital, the interceptor was in the same orbit as the target for a while, tailing it before destroying it. The debris from the Chinese ASAT test indicated that the target was hit head on.
 

xuansu

New Member
Except what China did was much higher than anyone did (860km vs. 525km). Also what Russia did was co-orbital, the interceptor was in the same orbit as the target for a while, tailing it before destroying it. The debris from the Chinese ASAT test indicated that the target was hit head on.

But I like the co-orbital method better. It offers the possibility of temporarily capturing the enemy satellite without damaging it. Allows for deescalating the crises.
 

montyp165

Senior Member
Reliability is the main concern at the moment. Talking about long on ideas can you explain why the wings of the Su47 is switched around, they look as if theyve been place backwards. I wonder what can be achieved by this?

Forward swept wing has increased agility and angle of attack compared to standard wings, an idea that goes back to WWII, but it needs composite materials to handle the increased torsional stresses on the wings.
 

hallo84

New Member
If by "leading" edge you mean something the U.S. and Russia accomplished four decades ago. Granted, China does seem to be closer in the laser department.

US and Russia never accomplished a kinetic kill four decades age.

Only recently did US demonstrate kinetic kill ability with SM-3.
 

crobato

Colonel
VIP Professional
But I like the co-orbital method better. It offers the possibility of temporarily capturing the enemy satellite without damaging it. Allows for deescalating the crises.

Not for a KKV. How can something around 40 to 50kg in size capture something about 2200kg? The capturing system must be a lot bigger, and once you do the physics, you know you cannot launch it on a small rocket, and once you cannot launch them from smaller rockets, you are stuck with large rockets, which means you cannot put out enough to disable a constellation with redundancy.

If you are able to develop parasitic nano satellites that will hook on to, hack, spoof and glitch their target satellites, then you can come back with the co orbital approach.
 

Quickie

Colonel
US and Russia never accomplished a kinetic kill four decades age.

Only recently did US demonstrate kinetic kill ability with SM-3.

The US did demonstrate the ability to kill a satellite kinetically about 2 decades ago, apart from the recent satellite shoot down. The US's ASAT program, however, used a F-15 fighter aircraft as the missile launch platform as opposed to the China's ASAT test that was reported to have used a ground based missile.
 

PrOeLiTeZ

Junior Member
Registered Member
China realized that it needed to go domestic long time ago, so now the benefits are showing. While India forces still rely on foreign hardware its equipment are facing issues in obtaining, negotiating, etc...As its industry is not yet as domestic as China's.

In the situation that Russia is in right now I dont think that they should bargin talk to China about price rises and what to give and not give. Its near zilch in what China is importing from Russia. Be grateful that they kept Russia industry afloat in funds. But China must thank Russia in sharing the knowledge.

Umm ground base would be more complicated and its range is further from the point of impact. If China satellite left debris that potentionally harm other satellites then so does the US then.
 

Roger604

Senior Member
The US did demonstrate the ability to kill a satellite kinetically about 2 decades ago, apart from the recent satellite shoot down. The US's ASAT program, however, used a F-15 fighter aircraft as the missile launch platform as opposed to the China's ASAT test that was reported to have used a ground based missile.

The F-15 missile was not a direct-ascent satellite kill. Tailing a low-flying satellite and shooting it down from behind is much easier than a direct-ascent interception.
 
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