The government has taken measures and has made clear that it will take further measures to address this problem. Why aren't you acknowledging that?
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China demographics thread.
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Israel is very capitalist and wealthy while having a very high fertility rate. The only problem is the will to have more children.
That isn't natural. The will for Israelis to have more children is due to many factors and culture/ religion plays a huge role in it. Resuscitation of the Jewish population was an important agenda for the politicians, Jewish religious leaders and Jewish population after they began mass immigration to their new country post 1945s.
But for everybody else - Europeans, Americans, East Asians etc who are living higher quality lives, children aren't a top priority. China must find ways to navigate around the low population problem by taking it as a certain unchangeable eventuality and and at the same time introduce measures to reverse it hoping that it changes.
A stagnant or falling population in China at the moment would be welcomed. There are too many people in China with a population of more than 1.4 billion. In light of the availability of drawable water and arable land I think a shrinking population is what China at the moment needs. The future of production and logistics are robots and AI. A extremely large population would be a problem. What will all those people do ? Manual labor can't compete with the efficiency of these new technologies. If you can produce more with fewer people then it will not lead to a crash in living standards. A lower population will also reduce the pressure on governments to create growth and jobs in the economy. And we have seen in China first hand the ecological effect of that. A smaller population will make China and the world more livible.
That's my point. Countries who want to increase their fertility rate should take a page out of Israel's book and indoctrinate their population accordingly. China isn't like Europeans, Americans and other East Asians. Their population won't push back on overt propaganda because they're already used to it. Why can't they jam pro-fertility propaganda down their population's minds if it works so well for Israel?
"Could" and "may" is worthless speculation.
Here's a demonstration I think is instructive. People who have been around long enough remember the press hysteria of the early 2010s about China's air pollution, with neologisms like "Airpocalypse" regularly thrown around. This is a representative sample of the kind of thing that was going around then:
You don't read much about that these days and you might wonder why. Well, wonder no more:
Compare that with Los Angeles
At the time of writing the PM2.5 levels in Beijing are 25 micrograms per cubic meter. Far from great, but a vast improvement over the >100 microgram per cubic meter it was a decade ago. For further comparison, LA's number is 14 micrograms per cubic meter. When China makes progress on a problem, the press stops.
This comparison is instructive in more than one way. Even what is ostensibly a neutral, factual publication is suffused with the usual insufferable Western cultural megalomania. Beijing should "reduce emissions" to improve its air, while LA's air quality is a result of geography and weather. LA doesn't have to "reduce emissions", perish the thought. And Beijing doesn't have weather or geography, as I'm sure you know.
I hope the point of this analogy hasn't been lost: When China identifies a problem, when it commits to solving it, it gets solved. However many years and decades it takes. This demographics issue is no different.
You don't read much about that these days and you might wonder why. Well, wonder no more:
Compare that with Los Angeles
At the time of writing the PM2.5 levels in Beijing are 25 micrograms per cubic meter. Far from great, but a vast improvement over the >100 microgram per cubic meter it was a decade ago. For further comparison, LA's number is 14 micrograms per cubic meter. When China makes progress on a problem, the press stops.
This comparison is instructive in more than one way. Even what is ostensibly a neutral, factual publication is suffused with the usual insufferable Western cultural megalomania. Beijing should "reduce emissions" to improve its air, while LA's air quality is a result of geography and weather. LA doesn't have to "reduce emissions", perish the thought. And Beijing doesn't have weather or geography, as I'm sure you know.
I hope the point of this analogy hasn't been lost: When China identifies a problem, when it commits to solving it, it gets solved. However many years and decades it takes. This demographics issue is no different.
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actually its the complete opposite. Chinese are the most free thinking, independent and skeptical people in the entire world. That is why it is very hard to get Chinese to cooperate on anything. Famous bandit warlord Chiang Kai Shek even lamented that Chinese are like a loose pile of sand. That is why China today is even more extraordinary in that it can get free thinking, independent, skeptical Chinese people to agree on broad goals.
Evidence in support of my claim: Chinese demand accountability after only a few thousand died of COVID, but in some other countries 700k can get killed by it yet there's absolutely zero accountability from the government.
Indeed some members of that certain government , , telling (something even the Third Reich would never dare suggest), threatening (like brutal military dictatorship Turkmenistan) and
And none of them have been punished. Nobody has lost wealth or power over this.
Maybe that's because the problem has been solved. Maybe people just want to forget.