China demographics thread.

[SimaQian]

Lmao is that true? Genious solution. Reminds me of the Byzantine empire when due to facing multiple small raids on the borders, far away from their stationed armies, they set up a new system where they said everyone can go at the border and have their own land (huge at that time).

The only obligation was that when a raid happened the farmers there would take up weapons and actively resist them (they were actually trained semi-annually to be in good condition)

Obviously this increase population method cant work now, because at that period in China the population was at millions and now it is at billion, and there are now more demands, such as schools, hospitals, electricity, jobs, internet etc

Yes. In fact two of Qin agricultural/hydraulic projects more than 2,200 years ago still benifitted China today.

1.) The Dujiangyan irrigation system in Chengdu plains constructed under the supervision of Li Bing. Most of the farmers that cultivated these lands are either immigrants from other places other than Qin or POWs in the never ending wars in that period.

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2.) Zhengguo canal

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which was originally a plan to weaken the Qin state to divert manpower and resources, but it backfired because after the completion of the canal, agricultural output increases which further draw more immigrants into Qin.


These favorable agricultural policies are also repeated after the Mongols were kicked out by the Hongwu emperor in 1300s. Giving lands to those able to cultivate and lower agricultural tax.

 

[KenC]

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The cat is outside of the bag. Thanks Fincancial Times for breaking the story

State media has been forced to report this after that FT article.

Lets see how China's lawmakers will respond

The FT story is bogus according to GT.

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[nlalyst]

The FT story is bogus according to GT.

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There is a difference between bogus and incorrect.

This

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raises the possibility that the 2019 population estimate itself may be wrong and is the reason why some experts estimated a population drop based on 2020 data

Huang Wenzheng, a demography expert and senior researcher from the Center for China and Globalization, told the Global Times on Wednesday that "the FT's headline was incorrect" as there was no evidence that China's population started to decline in 2020.

Even if some experts estimated that China's population at the end of 2020 was less than 1.4 billion, the total population recorded at the end of 2019, it did not mean China's population had started to decline but more likely was a statistical error.

The population statistics reported annually by the National Bureau of Statistics are based on a very small sample, but the once-a-decade population census is conducted door-to-door, meaning the results of the national census are more reliable than the annual statistics, Huang said.

 

[lube]

It's this.

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All census numbers around the world are adjusted depending on a systematic overcount/undercount.
A yearly survey that samples a population provides an up-to-date estimate and could be more accurate than the census without this adjustment.

 

[broadsword]

In its early days, China has grown by conquering and/or absorbing non-Chinese people. The great unifiers of China, the Qin, ruled with great success in their state over people who had by and large not yet adopted Chinese civilization. Upon unification, they expanded further into the lands of the hundred Yue, as did the Han that followed them.

Have some faith in Chinese civilization and its ability to absorb new blood, as it has done for millennia.

You should have even more faith in your country.

1) Despite having equivalent land mass, USA has more arable land, whereas China has to import food, notably from your country. China had to imposed birth limits, sigh.

2) USA is richer, so can absorb more.

3) It's pax Americana. People will be joining democracy instead of autocracy. No need to regime change.

4) Since you, like Trump, like beautiful people, they will make more Miss Worlds and hot guys. Btw, what do you think of the Chinese people's looks?

So have faith in the American way of life.

 

[PiSigma]

China is in HUGE trouble. Check the green line on the Bloomberg's chart showing the Birth rate. See that DRAMATIC DROP in the past 5 years. See it on the last 2-3 years, it almost disappeared!
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China is doomed! Thats might be the first time the Western propagandist is right for China. If this vanishing Birth rate is not increased immediately, China would have lost the game here.

CPC is at fault for ignoring the problem. As you can see on the chart, it was clear by 2000 that the Birth rate was rapidly decreasing and they did NOTHING to combat this. Genocide!

Did you not go to school? Learn to read a graph before posting. This is troll level post for stupidity.

 

[voyager1]

Did you not go to school? Learn to read a graph before posting. This is troll level post for stupidity.

Explain how to read the graph please. Birth rate obsiously collapsed to almost half of the 1995 numbers in just 25 years.

Lets hear from you who went to "school" then, how you read this graph differently from me

 

[BlackWindMnt]

Explain how to read the graph please. Birth rate obsiously collapsed to almost half of the 1995 numbers in just 25 years.

Lets hear from you who went to "school" then, how you read this graph differently from me

That graph is kinda hard to read(more variables than axis) , a population piramide is way more clear especially one that is a animated graph.

Still let's not act like the US and EU can double their population numbers to match that of China. It does show the power poles will have to fight for global talent and work force given each power pole has declining replacement rate. I think Parag Khanna has written a book about this fight for global talent.

 

[nlalyst]

Btw, what do you think of the Chinese people's looks?

So have faith in the American way of life.

Love 'em. Some of the best women I've dated are Chinese and not just in the looks department.

 

[PiSigma]

Explain how to read the graph please. Birth rate obsiously collapsed to almost half of the 1995 numbers in just 25 years.

Lets hear from you who went to "school" then, how you read this graph differently from me

You said the birth rate "almost disappeared". What basic elementary math would teach you is to look at the axis. The green axis showed 10.48 at the bottom, which probably means 10.48 million birth, instead of 0.

It's basically super zoomed in. If it was a scale from 0 to 17 millions, the is drop won't be alarming at all.

Remember the goal is to reduce birth up to only 2 years ago, they they achieved their target.