Increasing birth will never work in cities and metropolitans. Having children means it's necessary to have bigger house and housing's price in tier-1 and tier-2 cities are just ridiculous. Rural areas is where you should encourage birth. In countryside in China, you basically can have a house for free and rural China is not yet so immersed with Western culture and modern lifestyle.
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China demographics thread.
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Institute property taxes.Increasing birth will never work in cities and metropolitans. Having children means it's necessary to have bigger house and housing's price in tier-1 and tier-2 cities are just ridiculous. Rural areas is where you should encourage birth. In countryside in China, you basically can have a house for free and rural China is not yet so immersed with Western culture and modern lifestyle.
Develop the country side / tier 3+ cities.
Encourage people to work remotely / migrate to the country side and build houses there.
Use the proceeds from property taxes to give tax credits to people for having children.
Start a fertility media campaign; ban all voices to the contrary (especially Western consumerist brain washing).
A culture war against the "death cultures" of South Korea, Japan, and the West needs to be declared. Demographics is probably the greatest strategic and national security challenge facing China today. If it doesn't take it seriously, then it will lose the global contest vs. the West because old people cannot win vs. young people.
This person says around 8m while the Global Times says 8.5m-9m. 8m would be a catastrophe, while 8.5m-9m would be bad, but in line with the pace of decline from recent years.
I just saw that last year, Pakistan had 6.8m births, so it's very possible that within 5-10 years China will have fewer births than Pakistan.
Wow. Even below South Korea, which is losing 2/3 of its population every generation.
Every year drastic and double digit collapses in marriage and birth rates and still zero action from the CPC. Mindboggling.
The 21st century Chinese society is not made for childbearing. I mean read this how people react at a women of 24 having a child. Something looked upon as poor dirty peasant behaviour aka 1950. The whole 21st century Chinese mindset is extremely unfriendly towards procreation.
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Chinese university student, 24, with baby
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Yes, I follow a number of Twitter accounts that discuss international fertility trends. A common theme they all discuss is that while financial incentives are good, they are also expensive and changing cultural norm have a bigger effect than economics.The 21st century Chinese society is not made for childbearing. I mean read this how people react at a women of 24 having a child. Something looked upon as poor dirty peasant behaviour aka 1950. The whole 21st century Chinese mindset is extremely unfriendly towards procreation.
Chinese university student, 24, with baby
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My wife spends a lot of time on xiaohongshu and a lot of other short video apps with Chinese videos. She constantly gets fed a slew of anti-marriage, anti-child propaganda. Banning this stuff would be a quick, no-cost way to raise the birth rate. Building out more government subsidized housing and offering them only to newlywed couples who plan to have children is another good low-cost way. I heard one reason Japan's fertility rate (~1.24) is now the highest in East Asia (after being the lowest 20 years ago) is because their housing prices have collapsed for 30 years.
Yes, I follow a number of Twitter accounts that discuss international fertility trends. A common theme they all discuss is that while financial incentives are good, they are also expensive and changing cultural norm have a bigger effect than economics.
My wife spends a lot of time on xiaohongshu and a lot of other short video apps with Chinese videos. She constantly gets fed a slew of anti-marriage, anti-child propaganda. Banning this stuff would be a quick, no-cost way to raise the birth rate. Building out more government subsidized housing and offering them only to newlywed couples who plan to have children is another good low-cost way. I heard one reason Japan's fertility rate (~1.24) is now the highest in East Asia (after being the lowest 20 years ago) is because their housing prices have collapsed for 30 years.
The 21st century Chinese procreation culture and demographics are a humongous disaster. The threat to Chinese statehood of demographics is even bigger that the genocidal threat of the USA. I have seen zilch action from the CPC. No idea what they are thinking in Zhongnanhai. Total inaction.
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I've seen nothing but cope articles from globaltimes, xinhua, etc about how it's not that big of a deal and China can push through even with a lower population. I think people are scared to give Xi the bad news so they're just kicking the can down the road.The 21st century Chinese porcreation culture and demographics are a humongous disaster. The threat to Chinese statehood of demographics is even bigger that the genocidal threat of the USA. I have seen zilch action from the CPC. No idea what they are thinking in Zhongnanhai. Total inaction.
A good, low cost way to increase China's birth rate would be to have Xi Jinping personally contact the 24 year old woman and give her CPC membership, an award, free housing, and a free job of her choice in her career when she graduates. And then elevate her similar to how Lei Feng has been elevated for many decades. "Follow the examples of comrade Li", etc. And then have all the celebrities of popular c-dramas meet with her and praise her, etc. This is something that only a one party state like the CPC could do. A campaign like this carried on for many years would be a very budget-friendly way to have an impact.
@Dark Father, can I ask if you are Han Chinese?
@Dark Father, can I ask if you are Han Chinese?