China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

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Kalec

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41所向全所职工发出统一思想、凝心聚力、全面决胜四季度的号召,以实际行动迎接党的二十大胜利召开。四季度,111室将有多个宇航运载型号的飞行试验,型号队伍设计师们正在忙着修改完善各类报告,他们将陆续奔赴靶场,为试验保驾护航。
There will be several flight test from CASC solid rocket department in Q4. The engineer will depart for the target zone after revising reports.

It seems that China is preparing for launching multiple rocket tests by the end of 2022.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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Just want to mention about these:
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Makes me think that why would any strategic war planners of China still believe that in case of nuclear doomsday, those nuclear warheads in their arsenal should be targetting those US ICBM silos - if any with that thinking is still present.

Doomsday weapons are known for doomsday weapons for very obvious reasons - If you really have gone crazy and intend to wipe me out completely, then you must suffer from the same fate as (or worse fate than) I do.

Therefore, why should China even bother targetting individual Minuteman ICBM silos, which would mostly be empty by the time Chinese nuclear warheads arrive at those ICBM silos? In fact, it would only take 5 minutes from receiving launch command from the US President to the Minuteman ICBMs leaving their silos. 15-20 minutes from first detection of ICBM to the launch command being given, that takes around 20-25 minutes in total. Meanwhile, Chinese ICBMs would take around 30 minutes to reach the US from China - most likely after .

If anything, those nuclear warheads should be aimed at American strategic military facilities and infrastructures at the very least:
1. Nuclear weapon production facilities where nuclear warheads are manufactured;
2. Nuclear weapon storage facilities where nuclear warheads are kept and maintained;
3. Naval bases and shipyards that build and maintain US SSBNs + load and unload SLBMs;
4. Air bases where US strategic bombers are stationed at;
5. Command centers of the US military and the US government (plus any known backup locations) such as the Pentagon, White House, Mount Weather, Cheyenne Mountain Complex, etc; and
6. Last but not least, although I REALLY HATE TO SAY THIS - Population centers, i.e. cities and towns.

Those individual Minuteman ICBM silos would be, if anything, single use - Once the ICBM left those silos, it would take a few days at least for those silos to be ready for firing ICBMs again. And what else is going to be left intact for them to launch 2nd round of nuclear strikes against in a doomsday?
 

sunnymaxi

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Just want to mention about these:
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Makes me think that why would any strategic war planners of China still believe that in case of nuclear doomsday, those nuclear warheads in their arsenal should be targetting those US ICBM silos - if any with that thinking is still present.

Doomsday weapons are known for doomsday weapons for very obvious reasons - If you really have gone crazy and intend to wipe me out completely, then you must suffer from the same fate as (or worse fate than) I do.

Therefore, why should China even bother targetting individual Minuteman ICBM silos, which would mostly be empty by the time Chinese nuclear warheads arrive at those ICBM silos? In fact, it would only take 5 minutes from receiving launch command from the US President to the Minuteman ICBMs leaving their silos. 15-20 minutes from first detection of ICBM to the launch command being given, that takes around 20-25 minutes in total. Meanwhile, Chinese ICBMs would take around 30 minutes to reach the US from China - most likely after .

If anything, those nuclear warheads should be aimed at American strategic military facilities and infrastructures at the very least:
1. Nuclear weapon production facilities where nuclear warheads are manufactured;
2. Nuclear weapon storage facilities where nuclear warheads are kept and maintained;
3. Naval bases and shipyards that build and maintain US SSBNs + load and unload SLBMs;
4. Air bases where US strategic bombers are stationed at;
5. Command centers of the US military and the US government (plus any known backup locations) such as the Pentagon, White House, Mount Weather, Cheyenne Mountain Complex, etc; and
6. Last but not least, although I REALLY HATE TO SAY THIS - Population centers, i.e. cities and towns.

Those individual Minuteman ICBM silos would be, if anything, single use - Once the ICBM left those silos, it would take a few days at least for those silos to be ready for firing ICBMs again. And what else is going to be left intact for them to launch 2nd round of nuclear strikes against in a doomsday?
interesting.

China has officially ended minimum nuclear deterrent policy based on Xi's speech on the 20th National Congress, he specifically mentioned 打造強大戰略威懾力量體系 "building a strong strategic deterrence"

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now its almost official, China is building strong strategic deterrence force.

your analysis on this. how do you see this development.
 

escobar

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20th CPC National Congress.... among many other things, declared significant expansion of nuke arsenal...

Bye bye minimum deterrence, hello MAD.


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According to the 20th Party Congress report, China will build a “powerful/strong strategic deterrent capability system. The goal announced in 2021 was “an advanced/high-level strategic deterrent system. The previous traditional policy was a “lean and effective nuclear force.
 

Kalec

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interesting.

China has officially ended minimum nuclear deterrent policy based on Xi's speech on the 20th National Congress, he specifically mentioned 打造強大戰略威懾力量體系 "building a strong strategic deterrence"

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now its almost official, China is building strong strategic deterrence force.

your analysis on this. how do you see this development.
It comes with question like "How much is enough for a strong strategic deterrence?"

I would say 3,000 is preferable limit, guaranteed destruction of U.S. main military facilities and 30% of its city. It will 100% deter US from any open hostility. Also persuasive to other nuclear power a.k.a India from nuclear catch up.
 

chlosy

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It comes with question like "How much is enough for a strong strategic deterrence?"

I would say 3,000 is preferable limit, guaranteed destruction of U.S. main military facilities and 30% of its city. It will 100% deter US from any open hostility. Also persuasive to other nuclear power a.k.a India from nuclear catch up.
Wondering, how many nuclear explosions after which the world is unliveable?
 
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