China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

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zgx09t

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Panda Express said:
I'm not Indian. I live in China.
If nobody on this forum wants to consider difficult situations that the US may force upon China, and how to deal with them, then so be it, this thread can continue onward as it was before my first post. I brought it up because I am wary of how Biden blatantly crossed what were previously considered to be red lines for China to reunify Taiwan; those red lines were US military aircraft in Taiwan, US troops in Taiwan, and explicit US commitment to intervention in Taiwan (which as of yesterday includes Australia supporting the US). The recent south Korean missiles tests were released publicly with the tacit implication that south Korea can go nuclear in a short amount of time. That, and multiple media sources in the US and in Taiwan (authored by an American) make the case that the US should arm Taiwan. In my opinion, this is a ramping up propaganda effort by the US to increase public support for arming Taiwan.

So, uhhhh, anyone know when those DF-41s start going in the new silos?
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Sure thing Curry Express, I too have a beautiful beach front property in Wyoming.

If any of your grey materials are engaged before you started spewing out incredible amounts of jai hind fantasies about the whole neighborhood going up against someone you are afraid of, that reflects you might have missed a few tidbits. Fact is China doesn't need to be following anybody's scripts, as provoking as they may be sound bite wise, as long as those don't change the facts on the ground. She is following her own scripts and timeline, laying down the facts as she advances forward. A war is a guaranteed fact in her law if facts changes against her national interest. China has an ample options of tightening the screws asymmetrically for any of those manufactured stiff competition; one is just simply slap the vocal TI supporters a time honored American tradition of sanctions for a starter and see how things shape up in Taiwan political landscape. More innovative approaches will soon be tried out without fail. You see, it's a gradual slope with many single small steps, not a vertical jump in one bound to nuclear arms as you fantasize it. If IAEA gets a whiff of nuclear arms programs in any of those countries, and sure they will get some sooner rather than later if they do have one, and US is in cahoot of a cover up, a big assumption to make since US national security establishment is a conglomerate rather than a singe monolith block, the ensuing stink will be sky high.

Enjoy your stay here while it lasts.
 
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Panda Express said:
I'm not Indian. I live in China.
If nobody on this forum wants to consider difficult situations that the US may force upon China, and how to deal with them, then so be it, this thread can continue onward as it was before my first post.
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We want to stay realistic, but we have answered all of your questions nonetheless. They were the universal answers to a nuclear foe but they were not ideal because no such thing exists. The answer is that if the ROC stays as it is, the PRC can negotiate with kindness and patience, and if needed, fight it with control and mercy; if it becomes a nuclear power, the PRC might have to strike it with overwhelming force and devastation. If you were to fight a professional fighter bare-handed and he did not want to hurt you, he could subdue you with minimal force. If you pick up a knife, he might have to break your arm or just kill you for his own safety.
Panda Express said:
I brought it up because I am wary of how Biden blatantly crossed what were previously considered to be red lines for China to reunify Taiwan; those red lines were US military aircraft in Taiwan, US troops in Taiwan, and explicit US commitment to intervention in Taiwan (which as of yesterday includes Australia supporting the US). The recent south Korean missiles tests were released publicly with the tacit implication that south Korea can go nuclear in a short amount of time. That, and multiple media sources in the US and in Taiwan (authored by an American) make the case that the US should arm Taiwan. In my opinion, this is a ramping up propaganda effort by the US to increase public support for arming Taiwan.
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What "an American" writes basically has no effect on what America does. Today this American politician says America will do X. Tomorrow, another guy says America will not. Biden says Afghanistan will certainly remain out of Taliban hands; 2 weeks after his statement, the US embassy is being emptied out by helicopter as Taliban fire machine guns at the gates. America is schizophrenic and untrustworthy. The only thing that is worth paying attention to is China's growth, which is consistent and the real determining force.

Plus, there is no need to worry about nuclear Korea or Japan. They are no different from nuclear UK or France. They will not use nukes against China because they don't want what's coming back. I don't know why you think these 2 being armed with nuclear weapons suddenly means they'll be holding China at gunpoint like 2 hoodlums robbing an old man. Nothing changes; China's superiority in conventional and nuclear forces will ensure that its advantage endures and that the balance of power continues to tip in China's favor.
 
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Anybody knows the names/yields/numbers of China's nuclear warheads?

From what I know, DF-4 has a 3.3MT single warhead, DF-5 has a 5MT single warhead while both DF-31 and DF-41 have a 1MT warhead right?
 
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antiterror13

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sndef888 said:
Anybody knows the names/yields/numbers of China's nuclear warheads?

From what I know, DF-4 has a 3.3MT single warhead, DF-5 has a 5MT single warhead while both DF-31 and DF-41 have a 1MT warhead right?
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DF-31A/B and DF-41 are MIRV

DF-31A/B with 3-5 warheads 150 kt yield
DF-41 with MIRV with selectable 20, 90, 150 kiloton
 
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antiterror13 said:
DF-31A/B and DF-41 are MIRV

DF-31A/B with 3-5 warheads 150 kt yield
DF-41 with MIRV with selectable 20, 90, 150 kiloton
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I think the DF-31/31A/AG uses a single 650 kt type 535 warhead. Think of the DF-31A/AG as a Chinese Topol. The DF-41 is more like Yars but with a longer range, so maybe 3-4 smaller yield MIRV (maybe the rumored type 575 150 kt warheads).
 
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nugroho

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Panda Express said:
If Taiwan had SSBNs in the deep pacific, or even fast attack subs with nuclear tomahawks or equivalent, it would mean that China has no reliable way to prevent a retaliatory strike (except air defense, which is risky when nukes are involved)
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From the beginning, all of your premise is " if ",
Okay, I try to answer short :
If Taiwan has an alien or god level weapon then China is doomed, right?
Is that you want to hear from this forum?
But your big " if " is not possible .
 
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