China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

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BoraTas

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Anyone any idea what the future goal is for China's nuclear stockpile. How many would prove a good deterrent?
900 for Japan
4500 for the US
150 for Australia
1000 for the UK and France
3000 for India.

This is enough for destroying most of the militaries and urban population of the said countries. I overshoot for the USA to account for the US ballistic missile defense system and to leave 500-1000 nukes for counterforce strikes. India has most of its population rural so I exaggerated for India too.

Note: I am quite hawkish when it comes to deterrence so treat it as such.
 

Overbom

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I would say 1,750 modern warheads is enough to cover
USA : 1,000
Japan : 100
India : 150
Australia : 50
100 for each UK and France
150 for others

Do you guys any idea how much would cost China to produce and maintain every year ?
India definetely needs more. Make it 700. Dont forget that they have a population of almost 1.5B people
 

Hendrik_2000

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Technological advance are eroding the foundation of nuclear deterrence.
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Complete BS the assumption that because of better remote sensing and better accuracy would render the nuclear force useless is bunk. During the operation dessert storm the US try to locate the Iraqi Scud launcher without any success considering Iraq is mostly dessert with no vegetation and US control the sky.

Even assuming they know the entrance to the tunnel It is still not easy because the foe will just built fake entrances. And the real one is designed to withstand blast by designing blast trap and safety release to vent out the blast away from the TEL
 

escobar

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Complete BS the assumption that because of better remote sensing and better accuracy would render the nuclear force useless is bunk. During the operation dessert storm the US try to locate the Iraqi Scud launcher without any success considering Iraq is mostly dessert with no vegetation and US control the sky.

Even assuming they know the entrance to the tunnel It is still not easy because the foe will just built fake entrances. And the real one is designed to withstand blast by designing blast trap and safety release to vent out the blast away from the TEL
Where you see those nuclear forces becoming useless? Being more vulnerable means there is a need to improve retaliatory arsenals just to maintain the same level of deterrence like they say in conclusion. They even advocate not to exercise restraint and keeping counter force nuclear arsenal.
 

Overbom

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Complete BS the assumption that because of better remote sensing and better accuracy would render the nuclear force useless is bunk. During the operation dessert storm the US try to locate the Iraqi Scud launcher without any success considering Iraq is mostly dessert with no vegetation and US control the sky.

Even assuming they know the entrance to the tunnel It is still not easy because the foe will just built fake entrances. And the real one is designed to withstand blast by designing blast trap and safety release to vent out the blast away from the TEL
I wouldnt call it bs. These days the satellite images have high resolution and they also apply AI to automatically detect military targets.

Just some months ago there was a story in SCMP about how some people in China could run an algorithm and automatically detect airplanes from satellite images.

Same could happen here, have an AI algorithm to scan the sky by satellite imagery, for any missile and automatically feed it down to the missile defence center for verification before tagging it a real missile and not just false positive thrown by algorithm
 

escobar

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I wouldnt call it bs. These days the satellite images have high resolution and they also apply AI to automatically detect military targets.

Just some months ago there was a story in SCMP about how some people in China could run an algorithm and automatically detect airplanes from satellite images.

Same could happen here, have an AI algorithm to scan the sky by satellite imagery, for any missile and automatically feed it down to the missile defence center for verification before tagging it a real missile and not just false positive thrown by algorithm
 
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