China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

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Temstar said:
I've been to several Tulou a few years ago on a tour and if there were silos that are that size they would be housing Saturn V sized ICBMs. You could nuke Mars with a launch vehicle that size. Did CIA really make that mistake?
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It is a widely referenced story. I am sure I saw a segment on it on TV somewhere, but struggling to remember precisely when and where.

But satellite imagery tech were primitive back then, and resolution would have been poor. And once they did decide those were missile silos, they would have scaled other nearly features accordingly and probably just assumed locals were building really small houses or something.

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One anecdote is that the U.S. once mistook the odd-looking tulou houses for missile launch silos when viewing satellite images during the 1960s. Unable to figure out what the 1,500 mysterious constructions really were, CIA sent two agents disguised as a tourist couple in 1985, and finally found they were actually ancient residential buildings.
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Sleepyjam said:
You have no idea what you are talking about. You have zero source to support your arguments. Lol where is did you get 3000 feet of thick deposit? Please show me the source that says the bedrock near Yumen city is anywhere near 3000 feet. Depth to the bedrock can vary even in a small area nobody but insiders would know the exact depth but it’s definitely possible or are you saying it’s impossible to build?
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no, you can infer a good deal about underlying geology from surface morphology determined through aerial photography. The subject is offered as dedicated 300 level course in many university geology, geological engineering, or civil engineering departments. You might want to consider taking or auditing such a class before pronouncing what I can reasonably infer from available photos.

Also, these locations marked in the Wapo photo isn’t exactly in Yumen city, isn’t now.
 
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Richard Santos said:
no, you can infer a good deal about underlying geology from surface morphology determined through aerial photography. The subject is offered as dedicated 300 level course in many university geology, geological engineering, or civil engineering departments. You might want to consider taking or auditing such a class before pronouncing what I can reasonably infer from available photos.

Also, these locations marked in the Wapo photo isn’t exactly in Yumen city, isn’t now.
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You must have flunked your basic science class since you keep spewing stuff without evidence Mr 3000.

Lol Yumen city is literally on the right side of the map and includes the wind farm. And I specifically said “near Yumen city”. Please learn some reading comprehension.
 
Broccoli

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If those are just wind farms why has PLARF constructed multiple practice silos (and building more) on their largest training base?
 
escobar

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sndef888 said:
I don't really understand why China would be building new silos when road mobile ICBMs have become so capable and convenient.

It seems like a waste of money designing and testing a "DF-45" when they could just build more DF-41s.
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CN early warning capabilities are increasing, then silo and mobile missile both have advantage. They complicate the adversary's attack strategy. As US is focused on finding TELs, give them something else to think about...
CN is vastly increasing its arsenal to an assured retaliatory force, in order to check US nuclear dominance, raise risks of US intervention in local conflicts, and allow the PRC to win conventional wars. They're making sure that the US doesn't have the capacity to use its nuclear dominance card...
 
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"Silos are of course very important. They can store high-thrust liquid-fuel intercontinental missiles and carry higher-yield nuclear warheads. Silos are an important part of the nuclear power of major powers"
 
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