China Ballistic Missiles and Nuclear Arms Thread

[kw64]

Re: China's DF-41

Those missiles looks way too small for DF-41, I think they're either DF-21s in a new type of chassis, or the DF-25 everyone's been talking about. Many said the last picture is photoshopped, but at least the launching vehicle is same as the one shown above. So they're at least creditable partially. I think the difference in the shape of the lunching tubes is because the missiles are being fitted with different warheads.

 

[Violet Oboe]

Re: China's DF-41

ICBM's can be surprisingly small like the US has shown with her Midgetman SICBM (Small ICBM) tested back in 1989-91.

The three stage solid fueled´little baby´had a length of 14 m, diameter 117 cm and a launch weight of 13.6 ts tipped with a single W-87-1 (475 kt) warhead. Impressively the range of the TEL based missile was 11000 km with a highly precise CEP of only 90 m.
(...quite sure that Second Artillery guys were amazed about that weapon even back then, may be that they can be proud about something of their own rather soon...)

 

[mimiCat]

Re: China's DF-41

a powerpoint slide from some chinese army ,said DF-41 have been deployed,aiming America and Europe

 

[Roger604]

Re: China's DF-41

Interesting slide... but I'll bet the information on there is deliberately distorted. C'mon, is the PLA really going to let people know where the DF-31's are concentrated in?

 

[Violet Oboe]

Re: China's DF-41

Possibly a chart produced by ROCA military intelligence for instruction purposes or a deliberate disinformation ploy by PLA.

Most of the chart's ´information´appears to be quite familiar...

 

[kw64]

Re: China's DF-41

With the frequent surfacing of photos of multiple 094 vessels, I think it is became more likely that China would shift its nuclear deterrence from land based missiles to submarine based SRBMs. If that's the case PLA may abandon its long range ICBMs once for all, and let the subs to cover all the targets in US and Europe. Geographically coser regions can be aimed with DF-21 or DF-25.

 

[Violet Oboe]

Re: China's DF-41

No, putting all your eggs into one basket would be plain stupid.

China and Russia will have to strengthen all three elements of the strategic triad (air based, silo and TEL based, sub based) in order to achieve and sustain the capability to defeat the steadily expanding US's missile defenses in the next two decades. So do not expect that Russia would scrap her Topol-M and China her DF-31A/41 road mobile ICBM's...

 

[bladerunner]

Pentagon reports on Chinese Ballistic Missile

An Article in the Washington times written by Bill Gertz March7 2008

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China Missiles
One little noticed disclosure contained in the Pentagon's annual report on Chinese military power says China now has ballistic missiles designed to hit Us. aircraft carriers and ships at sea.

WAs anyone aware that China had perfected the art of using ballistic missiles for anti ship missiles, or is this a little pre-mature on the Pentagon's part?

 

[crobato]

Re: Pentagon reports on Chinese Ballistic Missile

Whoever said it is premature. That seems to be a very short answer but it needs no explanation.

 

[bladerunner]

Re: Pentagon reports on Chinese Ballistic Missile

Not having had the time to read the DoD report, im just wondering whether Gertz, is just running with or exagerating a report, that was just mentioned in passing. by the DoD.
Even if the Chinese have perfected the art of targeting a ballistic missile for anti aircraft carrier purposes, have they got the technology to find a fleet out in the pacific or wherever, that doesnt want to be found?