Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread
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The argument that it is a bomber all boils down to the fact that it is much larger and heavier than current 5th or 4th gen aircraft. This does not take into account the fact that F-35 is in the same ballpark weight wise as a F-15C, and an F-15C is in the same ballpark weight wise as a B-17. Yet no one called those bombers. The cope to diss CHAD as a bomber is getting old at this point.
We should ban and unban bomber discussion in alternating months. Countless pages of circular discussion!
well i was about to wax on about how to systematically reformulate our conception of what air superiority aircraft really means in the age of computers but in retrospect, people who already understand don't need it explained, and people who don't understand inevitably have to 'see it to believe it'.
i'm just excited to see how this all unfolds.
i'm just excited to see how this all unfolds.
My thoughts exactly but there is a great hurry-geopolitical events especially with the hostile,erractic actions of rapidly declining USA who seeing China's rise not by war but innovation,stability,prosperity has us heading into great danger with war aimed at China on the horizon.CPC and PLA knows this and must speed development of all of it branches in order to ward off/defend/fight and win-absolutely NO complacency.
This is a thread for the J-36. I have no idea exactly which comments you intend to apply to the J-20, reading through your previous comments, there is no indication you meant the J-20. In particular this whole discussion kicked off with:
It seems pretty clear this is in reference to J-36.
I am not sure what you mean by "daubed" here. Dictionary says daubed means "to cover or coat with soft, adhesive matter, as plaster or mud" or "to smear, soil, or defile". I assume you mean they changed the serial numbers? Like I said that is plausible (and I think we know that sometimes they do re-serial some planes), what I find implausible is multiple different flying prototypes simultaneously using the same serial number.
Reading this I think we're mostly on the same page. Perhaps you can consider the first few LRIP aircraft (such as the J-20s sent to FTTB) to be somewhat "prototypes" although I wouldn't. However my point was that we are very far from this point in J-36 development. That equivalent milestone for J-36 almost certainly will not occur until at least a few years from now.
So lumping the currently flying "prototypes" with those is not really accurate as a lot of development has yet to take place and the plane will be much more developed by the time it reaches the same equivalent milestone. So even if you consider those first few LRIP aircraft to be "prototypes" there is no way there currently exists "great possibility that there are 10 prototypes between 36001-36010". Maybe you can argue in the future there will be and they will be renumbered but like as of right now as stated before it is basically impossible for there to be 11 flying prototypes.
Yeah, no surprises, J-20 was once called fighter-bomber, some people are just broken recorders.
First, it was J-20 was a fighter-bomber. Now it is J-20 is only an air superiority fighter and incapable of ground/naval strike. At least with the J-36 there is recognition that there will be capable of multiple roles.