Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread

[siegecrossbow]

Then between now and the time J-36 enters service China invents new manufacturing technology that makes it much cheaper to acquire a large quantity.

Correction: It's all bad news now.

SAC head Sun Cong did mention that once standardization is achieved in fighter aircraft production lines they can be "cranked out like cellphones".

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

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The “good news” is that a relatively small number of J-36 will be procured. The bad news is that just a few of them can ensure air dominance in a very large area.

air cruiser for sure. guess it hint the "mini AEW" function where it will control bunch of drones/CCA's

Here's really hopeful that the number of J-36s that are to be procured by the PLAAF would be at least double the number of B-21s that are to be procured by the USAF in the coming years...

Even by taking massively supressed annual serial production rates of only 25 to 30 airframes per year from Chengdu AC:

No. of B-21s	No. of J-36s	Years Required (25 units/year)	Years Required (30 units/year)
100	200	8	7
150	300	12	10
200	400	16	14
250	500	20	17

Though, given the expected capabilities of the J-36 as an "air cruiser" that would command large U(C)AV fleets of different types and builds, this could be deemed sufficient.

There's also the J-XDS as well, which is certainly going to be produced in similar if not greater numbers than the J-36 as a "high-med-lo mix" compenent in the PLAAF (maybe as an "air destroyer"?) - Alongside carrier-based variant(s) for the PLAN.

 

[sequ]

Ratio of cost between J-20 and J-36 is going to be ~2:1 IMO.

At a current rate of 100 J-20 per year should mean 50 J-36 in full scale production.

 

[Andy1974]

SAC head Sun Cong did mention that once standardization is achieved in fighter aircraft production lines they can be "cranked out like cellphones".

I think he meant he would like to update them like cell phones, like having an improved version every year.

 

[siegecrossbow]

I think he meant he would like to update them like cell phones, like having an improved version every year.

Hmm in that case J-20 is already kinda doing that within internal upgrades...

 

[Wrought]

Seems obvious enough that such a large, three-engined, aircraft will be far more expensive than current ones and will be procured in correspondingly fewer numbers. Serving as a force multiplier instead of a standard combatant makes sense.

 

[sunnymaxi]

Here's really hopeful that the number of J-36s that are to be procured by the PLAAF would be at least double the number of B-21s that are to be procured by the USAF in the coming years...

Even by taking massively supressed annual serial production rates of only 25 to 30 airframes per year from Chengdu AC:

No. of B-21s	No. of J-36s	Years Required (25 units/year)	Years Required (30 units/year)
100	200	8	7
150	300	12	10
200	400	16	14
250	500	20	17

Though, given the expected capabilities of the J-36 as an "air cruiser" that would command large U(C)AV fleets of different types and builds, this could be deemed sufficient.

There's also the J-XDS as well, which is certainly going to be produced in similar if not greater numbers than the J-36 as a "high-med-lo mix" compenent in the PLAAF (maybe as an "air destroyer"?) - Alongside carrier-based variant(s) for the PLAN.

its almost impossible to tell, how many J-36 PLAAF is going to acquire.. what will be the situation of NGAD in early 2030's also number of B-21s in US military. it will also depend on western pacific theater and Taiwan..

i believe, everything will depend on USA fleet in early 2030's. PLAAF could acquire way more J-36 what we people are assuming right now.