Chen Guangcheng is in the US embassy in Beijing!!
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RedMercury
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I think the old Chinese men (and woman) in Zhongnanhai handled this particular incident incredibly well. They turned a crisis into an opportunity to preempt Clinton and make her leave Beijing with her metaphorical tail between her legs. I don't think they could've gotten a better result from the western press anyway, so they should take their diplomatic win and run with it. In the end, they get rid of a troublemaker, who now has to be funded by some three letter agency to sit around and be irrelevant, and they can end their narrative with the rule of law having called the shots at the end of the day. Hey, maybe even Chen is an amazing double agent!
TIME has lost their readers to web-pages & Facebooks; they have to make some little nuts to peanuts. By the way. how many of you have read TIME this year?
I didnt. I can get information for free and better. Why should Í read the useless rank, The Most Powerful Man from TIME?
The Old Solder will die and time will tell!
TIME will go, it just last few days longer than Kodak,
cn_habs
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Does Chen not have a family in China? As the man of the family, did it ever cross his mind that his actions could have immensely altered his relatives' lives? Many of his family entourage must have shrunk lately. I seriously doubt his entire family could even "get by" in English if they were to sent to the US.
Standing by your ideology might be admirable but it's plainly stupid to drag down others with you.
Standing by your ideology might be admirable but it's plainly stupid to drag down others with you.
Having had a busy last 24 hours, I have not been able to keep my ear to the ground.
Two things do stand out at a glance:
1) Clinton leaves Beijing alone, which means she and Chen do not get the propaganda decent from the plane to Tarmac in Washington.
2) According to China Daily, the talks made a lot of progress on economic and finance matters. China has agreed to opening more areas of business to competition and allowing overseas companies to take larger equity stakes in Chinese companies. By return Chinese Banks and Financial Institutions are to be given greater access to the US and open more branches.
The most interesting part seems to be agreement for the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China to buy outright the Bank of East Asia.
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Two things do stand out at a glance:
1) Clinton leaves Beijing alone, which means she and Chen do not get the propaganda decent from the plane to Tarmac in Washington.
2) According to China Daily, the talks made a lot of progress on economic and finance matters. China has agreed to opening more areas of business to competition and allowing overseas companies to take larger equity stakes in Chinese companies. By return Chinese Banks and Financial Institutions are to be given greater access to the US and open more branches.
The most interesting part seems to be agreement for the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China to buy outright the Bank of East Asia.
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Mr T
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Are you talking about his immediate family or his extended family? I'm sure his immediate family will get by. Think of all those Chinese people that moved to America, the UK and elsewhere with little or no understanding of English. There wouldn't be many of them there now if their ancestors had said "oh, well we can't go - we don't know English".
As for his extended family, are you suggesting that the people behind Chen's treatment are so petty they'll start beating up his cousins and distant relatives to get back at Chen? If things get that bad, maybe they should phone for the police. After all, China isn't North Korea where three entire generations of a family are persecuted for the "crimes" of just one person - unless you want to say something about the professionalism of the Chinese police. That sounds better to me than a blind man having to accept spending an unknown period of time trapped in his house, with him, his wife and mother subjected to random beatings.
Umm, you do realise the only reason this happened is that Chen and his family were being persecuted by the local authorities and their thugs? He didn't go to Beijing to deliver a letter asking for political changes, he was trying to get to safety.
Unless you're suggesting that Chinese people shouldn't ever stand by their ideals because they might get in trouble because of it. If that was the case then China would have a very bleak, soulless future. China needs more people who are willing to stick their necks out for other people, not more people looking out for number one or only caring about guanxi.
Anyway, in recent news it seems that there .
Hopefully this is a temporary delay. I'm frequently lectured about the benefits of the one-party system, one of which is supposedly that things can be done faster than in a democracy. I would hate to think that the Chinese government might be dragging its heels over enabling Chen to leave.
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bladerunner
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They must have finally decided that Chen Guangcheng would be a bigger pain in the butt, if he remained in China , than he would outside of China. His supporters would have to be careful though.
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