Cao Cao's Tomb found!

In4ser

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Cao Cao was a great general,but was also known for his brutality.
Depending on who you read he is to some a hero. In the original Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms he was a man who wanted to unite China. However the adaptation written hundreds of years later, the Romance of the Three Kingdom portrays him as a villains we all know...
 

challenge

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Depending on who you read he is to some a hero. In the original Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms he was a man who wanted to unite China. However the adaptation written hundreds of years later, the Romance of the Three Kingdom portrays him as a villains we all know...

cao cao is just one of the dozen power hungry warlord that appear in the late han dynasty.
bizarre,he was "official rehabilated" as "progressive." during mao time.
one of his son ,Cao tsi (?) a poet,his simple grave can seen even today, needed a massive repair.
 
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rhino123

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Depending on who you read he is to some a hero. In the original Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms he was a man who wanted to unite China. However the adaptation written hundreds of years later, the Romance of the Three Kingdom portrays him as a villains we all know...

Actually I do not think anywhere was Cao Cao protraited as brutal. He is protraited as a villian mainly because he practically hold the Han emperor as his puppet and to control the rest of China.

Actually at that period of time, loyalty to your ruler is taken as the highest priority... even if your ruler is weak or practically useless. Therefore to hold the emperor as a puppet is regarded as a very evil thing to do, therefore Cao Cao is called a villian.

However if we look at things now and with today's context, if a ruler... or president... is basically useless and weak, he or she should be sacked and another should take his or her place to lead the country, no point supporting someone that is going to get the nation destroyed. So if you actually take today's context, Cao Cao is hardly called a villian. In actual fact you can call him an opposition party leader.
 

Lion

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Cao Cao greatest military achievement.

Battle of Guandu. With only 70,000 men he defeated the much stronger and powerful Yuan Shao of 400,000 to 600,000 men.. He became the undisputable strongman of the northern China.
 

rhino123

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The greatest defeat of Cao Cao was in the Red Cliff Battle whereby the combined force of Sun Quan and Liu Bei numbering around 50000 defeated Cao Cao's 220000 to 240000 men.

And that was only the beginning... because after that defeat, Cao Cao began to lost all of his established outposts and cities that he had conquered to both Liu Bei and Sun Quan... and provide Liu Bei with a chance of establishing the Shu Kingdom and having enough power to contest Cao Cao.
 

rhino123

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Cao Cao greatest military achievement.

Battle of Guandu. With only 70,000 men he defeated the much stronger and powerful Yuan Shao of 400,000 to 600,000 men.. He became the undisputable strongman of the northern China.

Actually according to a number of sources from the internet (see reference), Yuan Shao only had around 110 000 men and Cao Cao had already 20 000 to 40 000 men.



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getready

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have they confirmed it as his tomb? it would be a pretty big deal.

i remember playing as him in the rotk game back in my days as a secondary school kid in singapore lol. my classmates liked liu bei better though...
 

vesicles

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Cao Cao benefited and was hurt by the famous novel. He became famous and almost a household name because of the novel. Also because of the novel, he became one of the ultimate bad guys. Historically, I think he's the same as any warlord at the time, just like Liu Bei and Sun Quan. Except he's more successful since his state of Wei led to Jin dynasty (although his offspring did not benefit from this since they got the same treatment as how he was treating the emperor of Han...).
 
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