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Canada to kill Boeing Super Hornet deal
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, according to a Dec. 5 report.

Canada intended to buy new Super Hornet aircraft to bridge the gap between its aging CF-18 Hornet fleet and a new fighter jet. However, after Boeing lodged a legal complaint accusing Canadian aerospace firm Bombardier of dumping commercial planes on the U.S. market, Canadian government officials — including Prime Minister Justin Trudeau — put a hold on the purchase and began looking at other options.

Officials from Canada’s Department of National Defence said they would not comment on the rumors. Public Services and Procurement Canada, which would handle any purchase, did not issue a comment on the report.

Boeing also declined to comment on the Reuters report.

During an exclusive interview with Defense News on Dec. 2, Leanne Caret, president and CEO of Boeing Defense and Security, referenced the company’s long history with the Royal Canadian Air Force, which flies CF-18 Hornets. However, she stopped short of saying she believed problems with Canada could be resolved.

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“As with any of our customer’s decisions, we are there for the long term and in Canada we have had a proud history with them for decades. They are going to make the right decision that is right for them,” she said.

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Speaking to Defense News last month, RCAF commander Lt. Gen. Michael Hood said that if the service bought used Hornets from Australia, the Canadian government would have to invest in extending the lives of the airframes, which are meeting their structural end. L3 Technologies, which has worked on the CF-18s previously, would likely pick up that contract— further shutting out Boeing.

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Canada will issue a request for proposals in 2019, with a projected contract award in 2021.

By: Valerie Insinna
The decision to reverse course on the Super Hornet deal could have colossal implications for Canada’s future fighter competition. When the government announced the Super Hornet interim buy in 2016, it was widely seen as a rebuke of Lockheed Martin’s F-35 and a sign that the Super Hornet was on a fast track to win Canada’s competition.

Continued tensions between Canada and Boeing shot a hole through that vision, bolstering not only the chances of Lockheed’s F-35, but also the Eurofighter Typhoon, Saab Gripen E and Dassault Rafale.

David Pugilese in Canada and Aaron Mehta in Washington contributed to this report.
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European firms jointly offer frigate to Canadian government, skipping shipbuilder
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Update on the Canadian Surface Combatant Request for Proposals
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Proposals submitted outside of the established competitive process will not be considered
December 5, 2017, Ottawa

The Government of Canada is committed to open, fair and transparent procurement processes.

The Canadian Surface Combatant (CSC) Project is the largest and most complex of the projects launched through the National Shipbuilding Strategy due to the volume of ships being built and the need to carefully integrate required weapons and technologies.This procurement has been underway for several years, and the Government and its prime contractor, Irving Shipbuilding, have undertaken significant efforts to engage with industry to ensure this procurement is effectively managed.

The selection of pre-qualified potential bidders began in August 2015 with an open and competitive prequalification process, and was re-opened in July 2016 to provide a second opportunity for additional interested firms to participate when the procurement strategy was streamlined. This pre-qualification ensured that potential bidders had the experience necessary to successfully complete a large, complex warship design project. Finalized in October 2016, this process resulted in 12 prequalified bidders. Since then, the Government and Irving Shipbuilding have engaged with the pre-qualified bidders and developed a request for proposals (RFP), which includes a detailed evaluation plan, evaluation critieria and the process for submitting bids. On this basis, potential bidders worked for over a year to prepare their proposals. The bidding period for the RFP closed on November 30, 2017, at which time multiple bids were properly submitted. Ultimately, the submission of a bid is a commercial decision which must be made by each potential bidder.

Recent media coverage referenced a proposal submitted outside of the established competitive process alleging the ability to deliver CSC ships at a reduced cost. Establishing and respecting a bid and evaluation process that is consistently applied to all potential bidders is fundamental to a fair, open and transparent procurement. Without common requirements and criteria, it is impossible to consistently and effectively evaluate proposals. The submission of an unsolicited proposal at the final hour undermines the fair and competitive nature of this procurement suggesting a sole source contracting arrangement. Acceptance of such a proposal would break faith with the bidders who invested time and effort to participate in the competitive process, put at risk the Government’s ability to properly equip the Royal Canadian Navy and would establish a harmful precedent for future competitive procurements. To be clear, any proposals submitted outside of the established competitive process will not be considered. It should be noted that a fairness monitor has been engaged to oversee the procurement process, and agrees with this approach.

With respect to suggestions that significant savings could be realized through this alternative process, this is far from evident. It is important to note that a warship project budget must cover more than just delivering the ships. It must also include the costs associated with design and definition work, infrastructure, spare parts, training, ammunition, contingencies and project management. Typically, the acquisition of the ships themselves only represents about 50-60% of the project’s overall budget. As well, any prices cited without the context of applicable terms and conditions as indicated in the RFP (such as scope of work, divisions of responsibilities, intellectual property rights, warranties, limitations of liability, indemnities, etc.) are effectively meaningless.

The Government of Canada and Irving Shipbuilding Inc. will work together to evaluate the proposals in accordance with the published evaluation plan.
 
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... and it didn't appear to work:
Update on the Canadian Surface Combatant Request for Proposals
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Bold move backfires as Canada declines Naval Group-Fincantieri frigate offering
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Naval Group and Fincantieri are out of the running to compete in Canada’s program to acquire a fleet of new surface combatants after they failed to submit a bid through the formal process and instead sent a proposal directly to the Canadian government.

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to construct 15 ships at Irving Shipbuilding in Nova Scotia for a fixed cost. But the proposal circumvented the government’s procurement procedure, which required formal bids to be submitted to Irving by Nov. 30. Naval Group and Fincantieri did not follow that requirement.

The Canadian government announced Tuesday it had rejected the proposal from the two firms. “The submission of an unsolicited proposal at the final hour undermines the fair and competitive nature of this procurement suggesting a sole source contracting arrangement,” Public Services and Procurement Canada, or PSPC, which is overseeing the procurement, said in a statement. “Acceptance of such a proposal would break faith with the bidders who invested time and effort to participate in the competitive process, put at risk the Government’s ability to properly equip the Royal Canadian Navy and would establish a harmful precedent for future competitive procurements.”

Canada’s decision effectively removes Naval Group and Fincantieri from taking part in the program since the companies never submitted a formal bid, government officials noted.

Public Services and Procurement Canada declined to say how many bids were received for the Canadian Surface Combatant project. Besides a bid from the BAE-Lockheed Martin Canada consortium for the Type 26 frigate, only two other companies have acknowledged bidding.

A team led by Alion Canada is offering the Dutch De Zeven Provinciën-class air-defense and command frigate. The Spanish shipyard, Navantia, has submitted a bid based on its F-105 frigate design.

Canada expects to make a decision on the winning bid sometime in 2018.

The program to build 15 new warships is estimated to be worth CAN$62 billion (U.S. $49 billion). The program was originally estimated to cost CAN$26 billion, but that figure has been revised a number of times and has been climbing steadily over the last several years.

Fincantieri and Naval Group had hoped the proposal of a fixed price tag of about CAN$30 billion for a new fleet might sway the Liberal government, as it would eliminate much of the risk and would offer a proven warship design. The proposal had the backing of the French and Italian governments and was made directly to Canadian Defence Minister Harjit Sajjan.

Naval Group and Fincantieri took note Canada had rejected their joint bid that filed outside the competition for a frigate fleet, but they were still ready to offer the design of their warship for local assembly, the companies said Wednesday.

“We acknowledge the position expressed by the Public Services and Procurement Canada (PSPC) not to take into consideration the offers submitted outside the process of the Canadian Surface Combatant program (CSC) Request For Proposal (RFP),” Naval Group and Fincantieri said.

“Nevertheless, Naval Group and Fincantieri remain at the disposal of Canada to contribute to the modernization of Canadian forces with a sea-proven warship, currently in service with the French and Italian Navies, that would minimize the scheduling gaps for design and construction of all the ships in Canada and maximize value for money,” the companies said.

Asked on Wednesday how Fincantieri and Naval Group will react to Canada’s rejection, Fincantieri CEO Giuseppe Bono declined to give a direct response but did suggest there might be room for compromise.

“We don’t want to take risks,” he said, adding: “we need to see what makes sense” and “the customer is always right.”

In addition, he said the design of the ship offered to Canada would be more similar to the Italian version than the French.

“We have made a joint offer of a FREMM, which is close to the Italian version if only because Italy has an anti-submarine warfare version,” he said.

The terms of the Canadian competition posed a problem as the tender required bidders to hand over intellectual property and there was danger it might end up in the wrong hands, an analyst said.

“The problem from the outset is how the Liberals have set the competition,” said Robbin Laird, of consultancy International Communications and Strategic Assessments, based in Paris and the Washington, D.C., area.

“One would think that with … the U.S. and Australia launching new frigates as well as the French and Italians working on a new frigate program, the approach would be to leverage the allied global recapitalization effort,” he added. “Yet what the Canadian government has focused upon is simply forcing competitors to provide intellectual property to their own Canadian shipyard without any real protection against leakage of that technology to China or to other competitors.”

In their direct bid to the Canadian government, the European partners offered a speedy start of shipbuilding in 2019, which they said would help sustain local jobs. A frigate generally takes about four years to build.

The Franco-Italian frigate was offered with the Thales Sea Fire radar, a multifunction digital system, an industry executive said. Naval Group offered its Senit combat management system, with Fincantieri delivering the ship design.

Thales developed the flat-paneled Sea Fire for the FTI, an intermediate frigate ordered for the French Navy and aimed mainly for export markets.

Anti-submarine systems included Thales Captas hull-mounted and towed array sonars, specialist website Mer et Marine reported. The weapons could include a 127mm gun and two vertical launchers for surface-to-air missiles, which would likely be Aster but would also be available for American weapons.
 
now noticed what NavalToday had to say which is Canada brushes off outside, fixed-price FREMM frigate offer for Canadian Surface Combatant project
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Canada will not be be accepting an outside offer which promised up to $32 billion in savings on the construction of the Canadian Surface Combatant fleet.

Responding to media reports about a bid proposed by French Naval Group and Italian Fincantieri, offering to build 15 frigates based on the FREMM design for a fixed price of $30 billion, the government said it would not be accepting the “unsolicited proposal at the final hour”.

Compared to current project cost estimates which sit at over $60 billion, Fincantieri-Naval Group bid offered considerable savings but the government rejected it arguing that such a move would break faith with other bidders on the project.

The government further said that any other offers submitted outside the competitive process would have been rejected.

“With respect to suggestions that significant savings could be realized through this alternative process, this is far from evident. It is important to note that a warship project budget must cover more than just delivering the ships,” the government announcement read.

“It must also include the costs associated with design and definition work, infrastructure, spare parts, training, ammunition, contingencies and project management. Typically, the acquisition of the ships themselves only represents about 50-60% of the project’s overall budget. As well, any prices cited without the context of applicable terms and conditions as indicated in the RFP (such as scope of work, divisions of responsibilities, intellectual property rights, warranties, limitations of liability, indemnities, etc.) are effectively meaningless.”

Aside from the offered FREMM frigate design, other known contenders for the CSC project include the Type 26 frigate design proposed by Lockheed Martin and BAE Systems, Dutch De Zeven Provinciën Air Defence and Command frigate-based design proposed by a team with Alion Canada at the helm and the Spanish F-105 frigate design offered by Navantia.

The procurement process for the CSC is scheduled to conclude by 2018 while the ships are expected to start construction in early 2020s. The 15 surface combatants will be replacing Canada’s Iroquois-class destroyers and Halifax-class frigates.
 
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now noticed Dutch frigate design being offered by Alion for Canadian Surface Combatant program
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I got to say, all the designs looks good. It will be a tough bid... Personally I like lockmart's more.
 
here's the context:
Sep 27, 2017
Jun 2, 2017

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US backs Boeing in Bombardier spat, damaging hopes for F-18 to Canada
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F-35: 1, Super Hornet: 0 In Boeing’s Rift With Canada
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appears to have emerged the real winner from
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’s C Series passenger jetliner.

Canada’s liberal government has reportedly decided to scrap its planned $5.2 billion purchase of new
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E/F Super Hornets as an interim step to replacing its aging fleet of older-model Hornets. Instead, the Royal Canadian Air Force would buy earlier-generation Hornets from Australia as a short-term solution.

The decision, if confirmed, is seen as retaliation for Boeing and the U.S. government’s effort to penalize Canadian company Bombardier for allegedly dumping the C Series jetliner into the U.S. market at improperly low prices. Boeing filed an anti-dumping suit with the U.S. Commerce Department and the International Trade Commission (ITC) in April, saying Bombardier was unfairly subsidized by the Canadian government.

Ottawa has not yet confirmed reports that the Canadian government is backing out of the Super Hornet deal. Defense Minister Harjit Sajjan told reporters Dec. 5: “We are going to fill that interim capability gap. I look forward to making the announcement at the appropriate time.”

Losing the Canadian order would undeniably be a blow for Boeing’s fighter business. The company stands to lose not just the 18 new Super Hornets Ottawa planned to buy initially, but the chance to capture all 65 new fighters the Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) needs to recapitalize its fighter force.

Even worse, the dispute could drive the RCAF straight into competitor Lockheed Martin’s lap.

For a relatively small air force like Canada’s, it makes little sense to operate two types of aircraft, virtually guaranteeing the first 18 Super Hornets would have been followed by 47 more, argues Richard Aboulafia, an analyst with the Teal Group.

“Having a unique, 18-aircraft squadron just doesn’t make a lot of economic or military sense,” Aboulafia says. “Most likely they would’ve said, ‘Hey, we would save billions if we simply buy 47 more—that takes care of our fighter requirement for the next three decades.’”

Buying the Australian aircraft, which are almost identical in terms of age and capability to Canada’s current fleet, is at most a five-year Band-Aid for the aging fighter force, Aboulafia says.

If Canada scraps the Super Hornet deal and pursues a competition for a next-generation fighter in the next five years, Lockheed’s F-35 will almost inevitably emerge victorious, analysts agree.

The Boeing-Bombardier dispute gives Canada’s liberal new Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who campaigned on dropping plans to buy the expensive and politically controversial F-35, an excuse to go running back to Lockheed.

“The RCAF ultimately wanted [F-35s]. Industry wanted them too. But Trudeau had campaigned on basically a Super Hornet platform and Boeing could’ve easily held him to it … until they gave him the perfect out,” Aboulafia says.

Of course, Canada could also see bids for
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. But Loren Thompson of the Lexington Institute argues that Canada will likely opt for the F-35 anyway, because most of its key allies are migrating to the stealthy fighter.

“The Super Hornet buy was basically a bridge to a long-term solution that would replace Canada’s Cold War fighters,” Thompson says. “It appears that most of the key allies are migrating to a stealthy solution, and that makes F-35 the only game in town.”

Plus, the further out Canada pushes its fighter competition, the less advantage Boeing has on cost. The price of an F-35 has been coming down for years, with Lockheed projecting an $80 million F-35A by fiscal 2019. Meanwhile, as the Super Hornet ages and Boeing struggles to maintain the production line, the company will be hard-pressed to keep costs from rising.

“We don’t even know if the Super Hornet line will be open,” Aboulafia says. “Chances are the Super Hornet will migrate upward, and the F-35A will probably migrate down.”

Despite the fallout, Boeing’s decision to pursue the C Series suit in the face of potential retaliation from the Canadian government signals the company has decided the stakes are much higher for its commercial market than its military side. The rationale is clear: Losing the Canadian Super Hornets is clearly a blow, but it is far from the catastrophe it would have been 18 months ago, when Boeing was facing the potential shutdown of both the F/A-18 and
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production lines. But with upgrade programs, international sales to Kuwait and Qatar, and potentially new U.S. orders, it looks like both of Boeing’s fighters will remain in production through at least the late 2020s.

Boeing will continue to deliver 24 F/A-18s per year at the rate of two per month—the minimum rate required to sustain the production line—to the U.S. and international customers, Boeing spokeswoman Kelly Kaplan said.

The U.S. Navy also is investing almost $300 million through fiscal 2022 in upgrading existing Super Hornets to Boeing’s proposed Block III configuration, which guarantees the company a reliable source of manufacturing work that may be done on the existing production line.

But Canada was arguably the biggest single opportunity for the Super Hornet outside of additional sales from the U.S. government, says Byron Callan of the Capital Alpha Group.

Aboulafia agrees, saying Boeing may have missed an ideal opportunity to further cement the future of the F/A-18 line.

“It’s very hard to compete on the world market when you are overwhelmingly reliant on upgrades of existing planes,” Aboulafia says. “Boeing might have missed a golden moment in time.”

Although Lockheed wins in the short-term, the Boeing-Bombardier dispute could ultimately spell trouble for U.S. defense companies in the global market more broadly. A similar battle has been brewing for years between Boeing and
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over what the U.S. government sees as the European Union giving unfair subsidies to the European company.

If such aggressive action by the U.S. over trade disputes continues, particularly if President Trump makes good on his pledge to pull out of NAFTA, it could drive foreign militaries to look elsewhere for equipment.

“How could this affect for example Germany’s interest in the F-35? If the U.S. is going after Bombardier on effectively aircraft subsidies, is Airbus next?” Callan says. “Countries will make choices and they are not going to look just at their military interests. They are going to look at their broader economic interests as well.”
 
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Sep 27, 2017

now (dated Dec 6, 2017)
F-35: 1, Super Hornet: 0 In Boeing’s Rift With Canada
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and the story goes on as Boeing 'Respects' Canada's Decision to Buy Old, Australian Hornets
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With Canada expected to decline a sale from the U.S. for
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Super Hornets, the aircraft's maker says it understands the move.

"The Boeing Company respects the Canadian government's decision and applauds the government's continued use of a two-engine fighter solution, which is a critical part of their northern Arctic border defense, NORAD [North American Aerospace Defense Command] cooperation, and coast to coast to coast security," the company said in a statement Friday.

The U.S. government in September agreed to a potential sale of nearly 20
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aircraft to Canada worth $5.2 billion, the State Department announced.

The terms of the agreement called stipulated 10 F/-A18E and eight F/A-18F Boeing-made fighter jets along with accompanying parts, support and weapons, the department said at the time.

Instead, Canada has opted to buy a fleet of older F/A-18 classic Hornets from the Royal Australian Air Force,
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.

"Although we will not have the opportunity to grow our supply base, industrial partnerships and jobs in Canada the way we would if Canada purchased new Super Hornets, we will continue to look to find productive ways to work together in the future," Boeing said.

The aerospace giant lauded its "outstanding 100 years" partnership, which has in recent time "culminated in our $4 billion annual economic impact in Canada," according to the statement.

The news of the cancelled U.S. sale follows nearly a year of hesitation from The Liberal Party of Canada, headed by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, over procuring Lockheed Martin Corp.-made
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.

Last November, Canada's government sidestepped the issue by saying it would buy Super Hornets in the interim to bolster its aging fleet of CF-18s.

Defense Minister Harjit Sajjan at the time said the overuse of Canada's McDonnell Douglas-made CF-18 fleet "would carry risk this government is not willing to take" to sustain current supplemental operations under NATO and NORAD.

Competition to purchase an entirely new fighter jet will come at a later date, Sajjan said.

Canada has been in discussions for years to purchase
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, but lawmakers have grown weary of setbacks in the stealth jet program.

"Our commitment to creating a level playing field in aerospace remains," Boeing said. "Therefore, we will continue to support all efforts to build an environment of free and fair competition marked by compliance with agreed upon rules."
 

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Offshore Patrol Ship assembled at Halifax Shipyard

Major milestone in construction of Royal Canadian Navy’s future fleet
The Royal Canadian Navy’s first Arctic and Offshore Patrol Ship (AOPS), the future HMCS Harry DeWolf, is now assembled at Irving Shipbuilding’s Halifax Shipyard.

On December 8, 2017, the bow section of the first AOPS was transported on heavy lift transporters from inside the Halifax Shipyard’s indoor shipbuilding facility outside to land level. Work will continue over the coming weeks to fully join the bow mega-block and its components to the centre and stern mega-blocks, which were transported to land level in July 2017.

“As the first ship of the class, having the future HMCS Harry DeWolf assembled at land level is a significant milestone for the National Shipbuilding Strategy, the AOPS program, and our 1,800 shipbuilders,” said Kevin McCoy, president, Irving Shipbuilding.

With all three sections of the first AOPS joined, further outfitting of the ship will continue.

There are currently two AOPS, the future HMCS Harry DeWolf and the future HMCS Margaret Brooke, under construction at Halifax Shipyard, with steel cutting for the third AOPS, the future HMCS Max Bernays, scheduled for later this month.

The future HMCS Harry DeWolf is scheduled to be launched at Halifax Shipyard in summer 2018.

“It is clear that the National Shipbuilding Strategy is working. The Royal Canadian Navy’s ships are being built by the best shipbuilders in the most modern shipbuilding facility in North America, Canada’s shipbuilding industry is being reinvigorated, and Canadians are benefiting from coast to coast to coast,” said McCoy.

To date, Halifax Shipyard and its major subcontractors have more than $1.9 billion in spending commitments with over 250 organizations across Canada as part of the Halifax Shipyard’s facility modernization and AOPS program.

Halifax Shipyard’s spending commitments span from Newfoundland and Labrador to British Columbia, including most provinces and territories in between such as Nunavut, Ontario and Quebec. The company forecasts more than $3.17 billion of economic activity across Canada between 2013-2022 from the Halifax Shipyard’s facility modernization and AOPS construction.
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and the story goes on as Boeing 'Respects' Canada's Decision to Buy Old, Australian Hornets
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no posts here so Canada opts out of Super Hornet buy
Boeing will not be selling a planned 18 US-made F/A-18E/F Super Hornet fighters to Canada, the manufacturer announced on 8 December, signalling a significant casualty in the ongoing dispute between the respective governments and their flagship aerospace industries.

Rather than purchase the new-build Super Hornets – a sale for which was authorised in September – Ottawa has opted to acquire second-hand F/A-18C/D variants from the Royal Australian Air Force.

While continued operation its aircraft is by no means negative for Boeing, it comes at a time when the governments of Canada and the United States are involved in a dispute regarding their respective Bombardier and Boeing industries over the commercial aircraft sales.

Bombardier is the subject of a US trade investigation, stemming from Boeing’s claim that a 2016 sale of the former’s C-series airliner to US airline Delta was unfairly subsidised by the Quebec regional government, making it anti-competitive because it was being offered at a lower price.

The Canadian government has stood behind its flagship aerospace manufacturer – as has the British government that relies on Bombardier manufacturing elements of the aircraft in Northern Ireland – and it has been well publicised that the investigation might have negative consequences for future defence deals, including the Super Hornet sale.

Nevertheless, Boeing has stood behind its claims, and was gracious in response to the recent news, “The Boeing Company respects the Canadian government’s decision and applauds the government’s continued use of a two-engine fighter solution, which is a critical part of their northern Arctic border defence, NORAD co-operation, and coast-to-coast security,” a Boeing statement issued in response to the decision to acquire older Hornets said.

“Although we will not have the opportunity to grow our supply base, industrial partnerships and jobs in Canada the way we would if Canada purchased new Super Hornets, we will continue to look to find productive ways to work together in the future.”

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