BRICS & New World Order Thread

Overbom

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Is not about spine or whatever. It's about that decades of Saudis selling oil for dollars has been proven that the dollars they are holding is just a toilet paper that the US holds them hostage for.

US played them for fools for so many decades. Trading valuable physical energy resource for toilet paper lol
 

getready

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When the Collective West hold a vast majority of your wealth assets, I think you will do the same and even grovel at their feet. The Gulf state can't escape until they sacrifice and learned to live a humble simple life which they don't.
Is security a big factor? US is willing to offer protection for the KSA royal family if they consider rapprochement with Israel and keep their distance from China and/or BRICS. I wonder what if Russia also offer this protection? I mean china is unwilling to get militarily involved in other countries due to non interference but Russia would have no issues.
 

getready

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India doesn't even send their FM to BRICS FM meeting anymore, in their "ally" Russia this time.

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India may not favour immediate re-opening of BRICS membership, say sources​

Updated - May 29, 2024 at 08:29 PM.

Further expansion of BRICS could increase China’s clout; New Delhi likely to push for a five-year gap​






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Indian "fuck you I got mine" mentality, they haven't even finished climbing the ladder and they want to kick it.
India is never gonna be leader of the global south. First they look out for themselves too much. No such thing as bringing up others to develop in their mindset. Then this current Indian leadership is very anti Muslim. Their suckling up to genocidal Israel already make some global south countries raise an eyebrow. Not only that, in wanting to counterbalance China influence they stepped on their own toes several times and hindered their own rise. They are forever their own worst enemies.
 

BlackWindMnt

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Is not about spine or whatever. It's about that decades of Saudis selling oil for dollars has been proven that the dollars they are holding is just a toilet paper that the US holds them hostage for.

US played them for fools for so many decades. Trading valuable physical energy resource for toilet paper lol
I agree with this view saudis aren't going to risk hundreds of billions of dollars for a trade group while Saudi only has to have good trade and political relationships with China, Iran and Russia.
 

taxiya

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Is security a big factor? US is willing to offer protection for the KSA royal family if they consider rapprochement with Israel and keep their distance from China and/or BRICS. I wonder what if Russia also offer this protection? I mean china is unwilling to get militarily involved in other countries due to non interference but Russia would have no issues.
Security from being "color revolutionized" is one thing. Having most of their eggs in US is the more serious problem.

The Saudis did not use their dollars to build industry and infrastructure on their soil which are materialistic wealth. They only have some numbers in a computer in the US. If the US go rouge, the Saudi (both the Royal and the people) would instantly become penniless. Essentially SA is on a leach to US as much as Japan, SK and Germany (military occupation).

The way out is for SA to gradually acquire RMB (another basket for their eggs) and build industry etc. This will take a long time.
 
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ansy1968

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Is security a big factor? US is willing to offer protection for the KSA royal family if they consider rapprochement with Israel and keep their distance from China and/or BRICS. I wonder what if Russia also offer this protection? I mean china is unwilling to get militarily involved in other countries due to non interference but Russia would have no issues.
Dealing with a Mafia Don of course they want to offer a new protection racket, they need a reason to increase the extortion rate. And its transitory anyway just ask the bagwoman Yellen and MBS maybe receptive to her idea....lol
 

Moonscape

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I doubt China will be that upset that Saudi Arabia isn't fully joining BRICS at the moment. China-Saudi cooperation has been ramping up quickly regardless of BRICS membership. BRICS would have been more useful to China if India wasn't a part of it.

India being in BRICS and allowing India to join the SCO have really turned out to be quite unfortunate. One of the Chinese government's few major blunders over the last two decades.
 

Overbom

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BRICS would be more useful to China if India wasn't a part of it.

India being in BRICS and allowing India to join the SCO have really turned out to be quite unfortunate. One of the Chinese government's few major blunders over the last two decades.
What China is to blame for? Blame Putin instead. It was him that forced China to accept India in BRICS in return to letting Pakistan join

I still remember all the talk at those times was Putin hedging China and all that crap.
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elieve me, I would pay lots and lots of money to see Putin's face today. Hope his "hedging" was worth it lol
 
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