Brazilian Military News, Reports, Data, etc.
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With this 4 new Scorpene Brazilian Navy increase her sub's number because the two last Type 209/1400 Tupi class have 10 and 16 years only and two others about 20 a sub's get a life about 30 years then in 2020 this Navy have about 8 SSK.
Scorpene is definitely more quiet as Type 209/1400 but also carry 18 weapons vs 14.
Right now only last two Scorpene submarines for the Indian Navy will get a AIP.
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Hmmm...another modernization?
Well, I think it is very possible that any Sea Gripens may fly off of the Sao Paulo first before an indigenous carrier is completed.
But we shall see.
In the mean time, I finished my model of the carrier:
thunderchief
Senior Member
So what is happening with Sea Gripen ? No news lately, and as far as I know even the mockup does not exist.
Miragedriver
Brigadier
The indigenous South American armored vehicle, Guarani
(Defensa.com) The first armored craft were built in Brazil on various chassis units serving several internal revolutions. Only in the late 50's and based on the M-8 Greyhound and the like, the Army and then truck plant and machinery rural Engesa, managed to develop wheeled armored transport 6x6 and 4x4. These were the EE-11, urutu, the EE-9 Cascavel and EE-3 Jararaca, all exported not only in the region but throughout the world, from Cyprus to Uruguay, from Iraq to Gabon.
The end of the Iran-Iraq War and the commercial failure of the draft MBT Engesa Osorio left bankrupt, so Brazil lost all its customers and the possibility of further developments beyond-tune and unassuming of updates of those vehicles. Argentina, from the German Marder had developed since 1979, the Argentine Medium Tank (TAM) and its variables, including obus AP VCA 155 mm. Argentines are gradually modernizing the TAM, despite their chronic lack of resources and Brazil decided to join in a joint project between the Army Technology Center (CTEx) and the Italian Iveco, Vehicle Armored Armored Personnel Carrier Medium on Wheels (VBTP) Guaraní, with an estimated order of up to 2044 copies in different versions, 10 exported to Lebanon and efforts to sell 14 to Argentina.
The Guaraní have automatic transmissions, air conditioning, amphibious and night capabilities, low thermal recording and radar, high speed, STANAG 2 armored protection (against mines and IEDs), GPS and inertial guidance, etc. The project conceived different versions: transport, communications, DQBRN, Director of Tyre, Mortar, Ambulance, Recovery, Command and Control Unit, Air Defense, etc., plus a projected Vehicle Recognition or Game Tanks version, which would artillery mainly with a unit of 105 mm, together with other options weaponry.
The Command and Control System for the Guarani, would be based on a structure for voice traffic, data and images, using fully integrated to vehicle, weapon system and management system Battlefield wireless communications. Their organic computers are digital radios and intercoms Thales Harris jacks, also integrated with other vehicles of Brazilian Armed Forces.
The major weapons system offers 3 opociones Guaraní: Australian tower Platt, including machine guns 7.62 mm or .50, manually operated, remotely activated tower between the Army and the firm Ares-projected REMAX, and Elbit subsidiary AEL) Similar weaponry plus lanzagranada 76 mm., or Elbit-AEL UT 30, the 7.62 mm machine gun is coaxial type.
Avibrás and presents for Armored Vehicle Competition on Wheels (VBMT-LR), another arm of the Tupi Guaraní program, nationalized Renault SHERPA version (also admitting the UT-30BR tower on its roof, including among its possibilities grenade weapons activating smoke, dual power system, specific radio equipment and various optional shields. In peacetime provide administrative alternatives or ambulances Tupi, which has 2.5 tons of cargo capacity.
Although the initial project had not been preselected Inbrafiltro introduced a new version of Gladiator-east, for now presented to police, the Gladiator II, which meets all the new requirements of the Brazilian Army and has been-as differentially completely designed and built in Brazil. Several local associates participate and support the project. Some components and systems are currently being imported by subsidiaries of foreign companies established in Brazil and the intention is the gradual nationalization of elements, where mass production is established. The Gladiator II has a full swing weight of about 8,200 kg and capacity to carry 1,000 kg payload. The project has the flexibilidlad necessary to reconfigure the vehicle missions such as reconnaissance, advanced observation post, since control units, anti-tank, mortar, radar, workshop, ambulance and electronic warfare.
Shielded, with some original similarities to Agrale Amarruá, 4569 provides standard protection level 2 and type NATO STANAG 4569 level floor 2A ballistic NATO STANAG level. Inbrafiltro also participates in aeronautical and conveyor securities or VIP vehicles normally shields.
It also recalls that Chile manufactured under license the Piranha, and subsequently served its know-how to modernize Uruguay bought by tens of disused Canada, achieving a very appreciable result through this work FAMAE and Colombia also made units by Local prototype of Russian armored personnel carrier BTR-80, known locally Caribbean, and in the 70s and 80s, in Brazil, the Bernardini extinct, then replace the old M-3 local Stuart, did the same with the M-41 Uruguayans proposal was about to be selling in Denmark.
Back to bottling my Grenache
(Defensa.com) The first armored craft were built in Brazil on various chassis units serving several internal revolutions. Only in the late 50's and based on the M-8 Greyhound and the like, the Army and then truck plant and machinery rural Engesa, managed to develop wheeled armored transport 6x6 and 4x4. These were the EE-11, urutu, the EE-9 Cascavel and EE-3 Jararaca, all exported not only in the region but throughout the world, from Cyprus to Uruguay, from Iraq to Gabon.
The end of the Iran-Iraq War and the commercial failure of the draft MBT Engesa Osorio left bankrupt, so Brazil lost all its customers and the possibility of further developments beyond-tune and unassuming of updates of those vehicles. Argentina, from the German Marder had developed since 1979, the Argentine Medium Tank (TAM) and its variables, including obus AP VCA 155 mm. Argentines are gradually modernizing the TAM, despite their chronic lack of resources and Brazil decided to join in a joint project between the Army Technology Center (CTEx) and the Italian Iveco, Vehicle Armored Armored Personnel Carrier Medium on Wheels (VBTP) Guaraní, with an estimated order of up to 2044 copies in different versions, 10 exported to Lebanon and efforts to sell 14 to Argentina.
The Guaraní have automatic transmissions, air conditioning, amphibious and night capabilities, low thermal recording and radar, high speed, STANAG 2 armored protection (against mines and IEDs), GPS and inertial guidance, etc. The project conceived different versions: transport, communications, DQBRN, Director of Tyre, Mortar, Ambulance, Recovery, Command and Control Unit, Air Defense, etc., plus a projected Vehicle Recognition or Game Tanks version, which would artillery mainly with a unit of 105 mm, together with other options weaponry.
The Command and Control System for the Guarani, would be based on a structure for voice traffic, data and images, using fully integrated to vehicle, weapon system and management system Battlefield wireless communications. Their organic computers are digital radios and intercoms Thales Harris jacks, also integrated with other vehicles of Brazilian Armed Forces.
The major weapons system offers 3 opociones Guaraní: Australian tower Platt, including machine guns 7.62 mm or .50, manually operated, remotely activated tower between the Army and the firm Ares-projected REMAX, and Elbit subsidiary AEL) Similar weaponry plus lanzagranada 76 mm., or Elbit-AEL UT 30, the 7.62 mm machine gun is coaxial type.
Avibrás and presents for Armored Vehicle Competition on Wheels (VBMT-LR), another arm of the Tupi Guaraní program, nationalized Renault SHERPA version (also admitting the UT-30BR tower on its roof, including among its possibilities grenade weapons activating smoke, dual power system, specific radio equipment and various optional shields. In peacetime provide administrative alternatives or ambulances Tupi, which has 2.5 tons of cargo capacity.
Although the initial project had not been preselected Inbrafiltro introduced a new version of Gladiator-east, for now presented to police, the Gladiator II, which meets all the new requirements of the Brazilian Army and has been-as differentially completely designed and built in Brazil. Several local associates participate and support the project. Some components and systems are currently being imported by subsidiaries of foreign companies established in Brazil and the intention is the gradual nationalization of elements, where mass production is established. The Gladiator II has a full swing weight of about 8,200 kg and capacity to carry 1,000 kg payload. The project has the flexibilidlad necessary to reconfigure the vehicle missions such as reconnaissance, advanced observation post, since control units, anti-tank, mortar, radar, workshop, ambulance and electronic warfare.
Shielded, with some original similarities to Agrale Amarruá, 4569 provides standard protection level 2 and type NATO STANAG 4569 level floor 2A ballistic NATO STANAG level. Inbrafiltro also participates in aeronautical and conveyor securities or VIP vehicles normally shields.
It also recalls that Chile manufactured under license the Piranha, and subsequently served its know-how to modernize Uruguay bought by tens of disused Canada, achieving a very appreciable result through this work FAMAE and Colombia also made units by Local prototype of Russian armored personnel carrier BTR-80, known locally Caribbean, and in the 70s and 80s, in Brazil, the Bernardini extinct, then replace the old M-3 local Stuart, did the same with the M-41 Uruguayans proposal was about to be selling in Denmark.
Back to bottling my Grenache
Well, the President of Saab AB has said the following (among many other things) about the Sea Gripen:
Saab AB said:
It is a sales pitch for sure...but apparently the Brazilians bought into it. They are definitely planning to produce Sea Gripens, with their own modifications, as a part of their go forward plans for their carrier air wings.
There have been pictures of proposed models that show the design...for example:
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thunderchief
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As far as I know, Brazilians have not committed themselves to buy Sea Gripen , they just expressed interest in it . They are probably waiting to see how would things work out with regular Gripen E/F for air force . On their part, SAAB is most likely waiting for (Brazilian or theoretically Indian ) funding to continue with the project . So far it doesn't look promising - even those small models look like repainted Gripen NG (no strengthened gear, no folding wings ? ) . Anyway, we should wait and see .
I agree that we are going to have to wait and see. We have to do that on any new project.
But when the President of Saab AB tells us that it is a focus, and when he informs the world that Saab AB has already recruited a team of UK based engineers to staff a new design center in the UK to conduct final detailed design, it is clear that Saab is planning on marketing it.
At this point, the clear initial interest will be Brazil. India will not will purchase it IMHO. They are going to use the Mig-29K and are already fully committed to it. They are also going to augment their air wings with the naval version of the Tejas...and it is understandable why they would do so.
So, in the end...as you say...we wait. But it is clear that Saab believe is is a viable option and if the Brazilians go for it, I believe they will build it.
The article also makes it clear that they are looking at the STOBAR design from the outset. This would open it up the market in the future.
Right now, outside of Brazil, all of the main players have already made their decisions:
US Navy CVN
F/A-18E/F (US made aircraft)
F-35C (US made aircraft)
US Navy CVN
F-35B (US made aircraft)
UK CV
F-35B (US made aircraft)
French CVN
Rafael (French made aircraft)
Russian CV
SU-33 (Russian made aircraft)
Mig-29K (Russian made aircraft)
Chinese CV
J-15 (Chinese made aircraft)
Indian CV
Mig-29K (Russian made aircraft)
Tejas (Indian made aircraft)
In the future, in addition to Brazil, this leaves places like Japan, Korea, perhaps the Thai carrier, maybe one day Argentina again, etc. for the Sea Gripen to ever be used.
So...we wait. I for one, am glad to see another viable option on the market.