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Why is China emulating the car favoured city designs of the west? I much prefer walkability and cycling to get around.
Because alot of the older Chinese leaders are infact unthinking US simps, only seeing the strength of the US from afar, without fully understanding why things are the way they are.
 

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The car culture is definitely growing.
Car = domestic manufacturing = moving up value chain = GDP growth = Stable well paying jobs
Bikes and walking doesn't produce the same economic activities.

Even if you don't agree with measurement of economic activities reasoning, China's car friendly policies gave birth to
creation of low cost EVs. Those low cost EVs comes at a cost, monetary and social costs. Without the Chinese government pouring in hundred of billions $ and Chinese cities designing to be car friendly, EV costs would have never dropped below $50000.
 
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Car = domestic manufacturing = moving up value chain = GDP growth = Stable well paying jobs
Bikes and walking doesn't produce the same economic activities.

Even if you don't agree with measurement of economic activities reasoning, China's car friendly policies gave birth to
creation of low cost EVs. Those low cost EVs comes at a cost, monetary and social costs. Without the Chinese government pouring in hundred of billions $ and Chinese cities designing to be car friendly, EV costs would have never dropped below $50000.
Japanese cities seem pretty bad for cars, yet they had a good car industry.

Doesn't have to be mutually exclusive and tbh Chinese cities are 100x more walkable than streets in the US.
 

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Japanese cities seem pretty bad for cars, yet they had a good car industry.

Doesn't have to be mutually exclusive and tbh Chinese cities are 100x more walkable than streets in the US.
Japan's car industry is based on exports, China's car industry can't rely on exports. Although you can try to optimize for both pedestrian and driver friendly, past a certain point there needs to be compromises. This is the same reason why US cities are based on freeways, due to a strong auto industry.
 

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Japan's car industry is based on exports, China's car industry can't rely on exports. Although you can try to optimize for both pedestrian and driver friendly, past a certain point there needs to be compromises. This is the same reason why US cities are based on freeways, due to a strong auto industry.
Chinese cities are built around rail.

Driving sucks in cities and can't be changed even with 10000 freeways because there's no parking space.

US has 8 parking spaces per car, China has 0.8. this is a hard limit because there is simply not enough land in Chinese cities to build cost effective parking lots. Nobody likes driving if you spend half the time looking for parking.

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The only way to make China car dependent is to rip up all recently developed rail that was built at the cost of billions and is brand new, bulldoze billions worth of brand new skyscrapers, deport millions of people away from cities, and use that space to build parking. An objectively insane policy that is worse than the Cultural Revolution and GLF combined.
 

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Are there any information about Bamars (Myanmar's main ethnic group) in China? According to Wikipedia they exist. 1686098856121.png
 

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Is there any indication that PLAN is looking to develop an arsenal ship, similar to the 20k ton one Japan is planning to build?
 

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Are there any information about Bamars (Myanmar's main ethnic group) in China? According to Wikipedia they exist. View attachment 114033
they're related to Qiang ethnicity 羌族.

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缅族起源于古羌人,是古羌人南下分支。中原战国时期,牦牛羌部落在吐蕃高原东北部形成白狼羌,历史上建立过政权,曾多次慕义归化内属。东汉初年起,白狼羌就与中原王朝有过联系。
 
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