ASBM with anti-missile defensive mini missiles

lilzz said:

The current DF-21 has radar inside.



I can't imagine the SM-3 intercept the ASBM from behind. It would have to come from the front unlike air fighter scenario,which could be any angles.

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SM-3 of course in nowhere near as fast as a ballistic missile. It's kill vehicle destroys the incoming ballistic missile by kinetic energy created by the collision of the kill vehicle and the incoming ballistic missile. There is no warhead as such on SM-3.
Now, SM-2 Block IV is being implemented to allow the in atmosphere intercept of ballistic missiles that leak through the layers of THAAD and SM-3.
A point so far missed is the heat of re-entry of a ballistic missile. If you study their busses, you will see they enter backwards like a Soyuz or Apollo capsule and have an ablative surface forming a curved heat shield to protect what is inside the buss. All ICBM's have this feature. The heat of the warhead entering the atmosphere creates a layer of plasma over the surface of the re-entry vehicle during which time any opening to the outside will allow the destruction of the warhead. Keep this detail in mind when positing all these wild ideas about warhead mounted mini-missiles and the like.
I also sense that few here have ever seen the inside of a missile or have any hands on familiarity with the difficulty of designing a missile and bringing it to fruition.

I also sense that few here have ever seen the inside of a missile or have any hands on familiarity with the difficulty of designing a missile and bringing it to fruition.

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In 1972 when assigned to Air Missile Division on CVA-67 we installed "telemetering packs" on Sea Sparrows in order to track their performance.

Man that's 37 years ago.

And in '73 & '74 I was assigned to Guided Missile division on CVA-41 we still had 9b Sidewinders. Why I don't know. All I know is that those winders had to be assembled.

But honestly I don't know that much about the technical aspects of missiles.

bd popeye said:

In 1972 when assigned to Air Missile Division on CVA-67 we installed "telemetering packs" on Sea Sparrows in order to track their performance.

Man that's 37 years ago.

And in '73 & '74 I was assigned to Guided Missile division on CVA-41 we still had 9b Sidewinders. Why I don't know. All I know is that those winders had to be assembled.

But honestly I don't know that much about the technical aspects of missiles.

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AIM-9B! Geez, that was the original operational configuration from 1958. A dud AIM-9B went home in the fuselage of a PLAAF MiG-17 after a confrontation with some Taiwanese F-86's and this dud became what the Russians later called a graduate seminar on missile design, leading directly to the Vympel K-13. This Sidewinder copy is so close parts from Sidewinder and K-13 are mostly interchangeable. One may put the Vympel GCS on a Sidewinder TD, warhead and rocket motor, and vice versa and both will function just fine.

AIM-9B! Geez,

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Yep.. That was in '73 & '74...They did not use them for CAP. But for actual missile shoots. Once down by Taiwan in Feb.'74 a large barge was set on fire and several 'Winders hit the mark. How could they miss?? I hated those things because we had to put them together for a missile shoot. Then break the ones down that were not fired. It was a pain...

bd popeye said:

Yep.. That was in '73 & '74...They did not use them for CAP. But for actual missile shoots. Once down by Taiwan in Feb.'74 a large barge was set on fire and several 'Winders hit the mark. How could they miss?? I hated those things because we had to put them together for a missile shoot. Then break the ones down that were not fired. It was a pain...

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Ah, you would love AIM-9X. It comes pre-assembled in a ready to fire condition. No fiddling with small rusty screws on wings and fins, no packaging the GCS in it's own can, etc. The rub is this, if it fails BIT inspection or the pilot reports "no track/no tone" on post flight, the missile is canned and shipped away to Raytheon to be repaired. The squadron is out an asset for around six months afterward. With earlier versions such as AIM-9M, a missile that tests bad may be tested in the field and if found to be bad, the guidance section removed and replaced with a good guidance section. The squadron looses the asset for maybe one or two cycles, or a day at a land base, but that is all. The failed GCS is shipped to a depot for repair later on, and the field site will have extra GCS's on hand that are fresh from a depot.