Arab Spring II in Egypt. The potential Civil War.

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Franklin

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The coup is already a fact. Now Egypt is led by a guy who's name is Sisi. (sorry for the pun)

Top Egyptian military commander says Morsi ousted as president

Egypt's top military commander says the army is now in full control of the country and President Mohammed Morsi has been replaced by the chief justice of the constitutional court as the interim head of state.

He made the announcements in a Wednesday night speech -- the latest twist in an all-out power struggle inside Egypt that Morsi's national security adviser is describing as a military coup.

Gen. Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi said the country's constitution has been temporarily suspended and Morsi has failed to meet the demands of Egypt's people.

Fireworks and cheers erupted from the millions gathered in Tahrir Square after the announcement was made.

Earlier in the day, an army deadline for Morsi to resolve Egypt's political crisis expired.

Top military officials and opposition leaders met Wednesday and agreed on a political roadmap for the country's future, calling for early presidential and parliamentary elections, el-Sissi said. A new presidential cabinet will be formed as well as a national reconciliation committee, which will include youth movements that have been behind anti-Morsi demonstrations.

Morsi's response was not immediately known, but an aide says he has been moved to an undisclosed location.

El-Sissi said the military will deal "decisively" with any violence sparked by the announcements.

Before el-Sissi's address, Egyptian troops, including commandos in full combat gear, were deployed across much of Cairo, including at key facilities, on bridges over the Nile River and at major intersections.

The military vowed Wednesday to defend its people "against any terrorist, radical or fool.”

But one of Morsi's advisers called their actions a "coup."

"For the sake of Egypt and for historical accuracy, let’s call what is happening by its real name: Military coup," the Morsi adviser, Essam al-Haddad, said on his Facebook page.

An aide told Reuters that Morsi had spent the day working at a presidential office in a compound of the Republican Guard in Cairo, but it was unclear if he would be able to return later to his palace.

Witnesses told Reuters that the army was erected barbed wire and barriers around the compound, and moved in vehicles and troops to prevent supporters from getting to his palace.

A travel ban was put on Morsi and the head of his Muslim Brotherhood, Mohammed Badie, as well as Badie's deputy Khairat el-Shater, officials told the Associated Press.

The Freedom and Justice Party (FJP) -- the political wing of the Muslim Brotherhood -- has denied that Morsi was placed under house arrest.

Minutes before the military’s deadline for Morsi to resolve the nation’s political crisis passed Wednesday afternoon, the embattled leader called for "national reconciliation," but vowed he would never step down.

Millions were in the main squares of major cities nationwide Wednesday, demanding Morsi's removal, in the fourth day of the biggest anti-government rallies the country has seen, surpassing even those in the uprising that ousted against his autocratic predecessor Hosni Mubarak. Critics say Morsi has set the nation on a path toward Islamic rule.

"The presidency renews its own roadmap and invites all national forces for dialogue," Morsi said in a statement on his Facebook page, adding that his vision is to hold a coalition government that will run upcoming parliamentary elections. Morsi also said he was looking to "form an independent committee for constitutional amendments to be presented to the coming parliament."

He described electoral legitimacy as the only safeguard against violence and instability.

Khaled Daoud, spokesman of the main opposition National Salvation Front, which pro-reform leader Mohamed ElBaradei leads, said that ElBaradei, Sheik Ahmed el-Tayeb, grand imam of Al-Azhar mosque, and Pope Tawadros II, patriarch of Egypt's Coptic Christian minority, were part of the Wednesday meetings with military leaders.

Political sources told Reuters that two members of a rebel youth group that is leading the anti-Morsi protests and members of the hardline Muslim fundamentalist al-Nour Party also attended.

A Defense Ministry official said Gen. Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi held another emergency meeting with his top commanders Wednesday, hours before the deadline expired. The official, who gave no further details, spoke Wednesday on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief the media, the Associated Press reports.

The army also asked the FJP to meet with el-Sissi, but the invite was rejected.

"We have a president and that is it," Waleed al-Haddad, a senior leader of the party, told Reuters.

The state-run Al-Ahram newspaper -- which also seemed to be following a military line -- reported that the military had placed several leaders of Morsi's Muslim Brotherhood under surveillance.

Before the deadline expired at 5 p.m. local time (11 a.m. ET), employees at Egypt's state TV station said military officers were present in the newsroom monitoring its output, but not interfering with their work.

The military also beefed up the presence of troops inside the building, the employees told the Associated Press, though they were not visible outside. Even before the crisis, a small army contingent usually guards the state TV headquarters.

In his emotional 46-minute speech late Tuesday, Morsi vowed not to step down and pledged to defend his legitimacy with his life in the face of three days of massive street demonstrations calling for his ouster. The Islamist leader accused loyalists of his ousted autocratic predecessor Hosni Mubarak of exploiting the wave of protests to topple his regime and thwart democracy.

"There is no substitute for legitimacy," said Morsi, at times angrily raising his voice, thrusting his fist in the air and pounding the podium. He warned that electoral and constitutional legitimacy "is the only guarantee against violence."

The statements showed that Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood were prepared to run the risk of challenging the army. It also entrenches the lines of confrontation between his Islamist supporters and Egyptians angry over what they see as his efforts to impose control through the Brotherhood and his failures to deal with the country's multiple problems.

At the main pro-Morsi rally in Cairo, thousands of his Islamist supporters chanted, "Wake up el-Sissi, Morsi is my president."

"We will not bring back the military rule," they chanted outside the Rabia al-Adawiya Mosque. "Will not happen, will not happen," they shouted.

After the army's deadline passed, a military helicopter circled over the crowds in Tahrir Square, which was transformed into a sea of furiously waving Egyptian flags. "Leave, leave," they chanted to Morsi, electrified as they waited to hear of an army move.After nightfall, fireworks went off and green lasers flashed over the crowd.

On Tuesday, clashes in Cairo and elsewhere in the country that left at least 23 people dead, most in a single incident near the main Cairo University campus. The latest deaths take to 39 the number of people killed since Sunday in violence between opponents and supporters of Morsi, who took office in June last year as Egypt's first freely elected leader.

The bloodshed, coupled with Morsi's defiant speeches, contributed the sense that both sides were ready to fight to the end. The president's supporters also moved out in increased marches in Cairo Tuesday and other cities, and stepped up warnings that it will take bloodshed to dislodge him.

On Monday, the military gave Morsi the ultimatum to meet the protesters' demands within 48 hours. If not, the generals' plan would suspend the Islamist-backed constitution, dissolve the Islamist-dominated legislature and set up an interim administration headed by the country's chief justice, the state news agency reported.

The leaking of the military's so-called political "road map" appeared aimed at adding pressure on Morsi by showing the public and the international community that the military has a plan that does not involve a coup.

Fearing that Washington's most important Arab ally would descend into chaos, U.S. officials said they are urging Morsi to take immediate steps to address opposition grievances, telling the protesters to remain peaceful and reminding the army that a coup could have consequences for the massive American military aid package it receives. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

At the U.S. State Department media briefing Wednesday, spokeswoman Jen Psaki restated the administration's priority on the democratic process.

"It's never been about one individual," she told reporters. "It's been about hearing and allowing the voices of the Egyptian people to be heard."

Pentagon Spokesman George Little says there has been no change in terms of the U.S. military prepositioning assets in and around Egypt in the event they are called upon to assist the U.S. embassy in Cairo.

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asif iqbal

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I don't get it, Morsi was democratically elected into the office, if they don't like him and his policy's wait until the next election, just like democratic country's do, what's with this demos if you don't like the leader and get ride of him

This means everytime someone comes to power through majority votes and his actions aren't appreciated he will be demonstrated out of office?

You vote him in you let him finish his term you don't demo to get ride of him after a few months, this is not democracy works

Anyhow I'm for the people who get the power, if they don't want him fine get ride of him, but this time make your mind up and stick to it for heavens sake!
 

solarz

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I don't get it, Morsi was democratically elected into the office, if they don't like him and his policy's wait until the next election, just like democratic country's do, what's with this demos if you don't like the leader and get ride of him

This means everytime someone comes to power through majority votes and his actions aren't appreciated he will be demonstrated out of office?

You vote him in you let him finish his term you don't demo to get ride of him after a few months, this is not democracy works

Anyhow I'm for the people who get the power, if they don't want him fine get ride of him, but this time make your mind up and stick to it for heavens sake!

Yeah, who'd have seen this coming? :rolleyes:
 

leibowitz

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Iran and Russia should be plenty pleased with this development; Morsi was the GCC's man in Egypt; the military is a tool of the US and (indirectly) Israel.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
I don't get it, Morsi was democratically elected into the office, if they don't like him and his policy's wait until the next election, just like democratic country's do, what's with this demos if you don't like the leader and get ride of him

This means everytime someone comes to power through majority votes and his actions aren't appreciated he will be demonstrated out of office?

You vote him in you let him finish his term you don't demo to get ride of him after a few months, this is not democracy works

Anyhow I'm for the people who get the power, if they don't want him fine get ride of him, but this time make your mind up and stick to it for heavens sake!

It won't be the first time people who wanted to mount a coup whipped up the mob to riot so they can claim they are only obeying the will of the people and/or only moving in to restore order.
 

Jeff Head

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According to the announcement by el-Sis, who is a graduate of the US War College, the military commander is not the head of the temporary government, the Chief of the Supreme Court is.

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The Australian said:
July 4, 2013
CAIRO: EGYPT'S army chief Abdel Fattah al-Sisi has ousted president Mohamed Morsi and declared the head of the Supreme Constitutional Court caretaker leader.

Mr Sisi, the defence minister in Mr Morsi's government, also announced a freezing of the Islamist-drafted constitution and early presidential elections.

He said a "strong and capable" government would be formed and would have "full capacities".

The army chief said a panel would be formed to look into amendments to the constitution and a law would be drafted to regulate parliamentary elections.

After the announcement, delivered by Mr Sisi in a televised address, Mr Morsi denounced the move as an "illegal" and urged Egyptians to "peacefully resist the coup as he himself will do", a senior aide told AFP.

Opposition leader Mohamed ElBaradei said the roadmap announced by Mr Sisi "meets the the people's demands for early presidential elections".

The army's dramatic move comes after millions of Egyptians took to the streets to call for his ouster, accusing him of betraying the 2011 revolution that brought him to power.
 

cn_habs

Junior Member
What a clusterfvck this whole Arab spring has become!

This Is Africa!
 
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Jeff Head

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What a cluster this whole Arab spring has become!

This Is Afria!
It was from the beginning.

The Obama administration's foreign policy in Africa has been an abysmal failure, and has made that part of the world a much more dangerous place. He has gotten behind every wrong horse possible.

Egypt, Libya, Syria, etc. to name the largest screw-ups, and now it is coming home to roost on him. Some of the signs by the big crowds this last Sunday (that the media in the US is not showing because they are so in the tank for Obama and do not want to "embarass him," ) are pretty revealing.


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Sadly, to our shame...it is true.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
Just have a look at the BBC coverage on the website and its all fireworks and soldiers getting carried on cheering people's shoulders, you'd think Egypt have just been liberated from foreign occupation. Talk about balanced coverage. :rolleyes:
 
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