American Economics Thread

Chilled_k6

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I do wonder how SK and LG's batteries compare to CATL/BYD/Tesla.

I haven't followed the NEV thread as closely as the Semi thread, do you know if there's any good comparisons?
You'll get better info searching on the NEV thread, and I'm not an expert on this either. But to summarize quickly in terms of the technical stuff, CATL and BYD got ahead of the South Korean competitors because of 2 reasons: 1) LFP batteries & 2) structural battery packs (both CATL and BYD have this).

South Koreans didn't adopt LFP into production until sometime this year I believe. Just ternary battery before.

Ford is looking for LFP so SK On should be providing it by then.
 

Stierlitz

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The ISM Manufacturing PMI in the United States fell to 46 in June 2023, from 46.9 in May and below forecasts of 47. The reading pointed to a faster rate of contraction in the manufacturing sector since May 2020, with companies managing outputs down as softness continues and optimism about the second half of 2023 weakening. “Demand remains weak, production is slowing due to lack of work, and suppliers have capacity. There are signs of more employment reduction actions in the near term", Timothy Fiore, Chair of the ISM said. In June, declines were seen in new orders (45.6 vs 42.6), production (46.7 vs 51.1), employment (48.1 vs 51.4), inventories (44 vs 45.8) and backlog of orders (38.7 vs 37.5). Also, price pressures eased (41.8 vs 44.2) and the supplier deliveries index increased to 45.7 from 43.5, a sign manufacturing lead times improved again. On the other hand, the customers’ inventories index dropped into ‘too low’ territory (46.2 vs 51.4), a positive for future production.

source: Institute for Supply Management
 

Tam

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Janet Yellen to beg for China to buy US Treasury Bonds instead of China selling them to save the US economy. I predict China will end up selling more US Treasury Bonds throughout the year albeit slowly and gradually, worsened because other countries like Japan will also do so.

 

56860

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The ISM Manufacturing PMI in the United States fell to 46 in June 2023, from 46.9 in May and below forecasts of 47. The reading pointed to a faster rate of contraction in the manufacturing sector since May 2020, with companies managing outputs down as softness continues and optimism about the second half of 2023 weakening. “Demand remains weak, production is slowing due to lack of work, and suppliers have capacity. There are signs of more employment reduction actions in the near term", Timothy Fiore, Chair of the ISM said. In June, declines were seen in new orders (45.6 vs 42.6), production (46.7 vs 51.1), employment (48.1 vs 51.4), inventories (44 vs 45.8) and backlog of orders (38.7 vs 37.5). Also, price pressures eased (41.8 vs 44.2) and the supplier deliveries index increased to 45.7 from 43.5, a sign manufacturing lead times improved again. On the other hand, the customers’ inventories index dropped into ‘too low’ territory (46.2 vs 51.4), a positive for future production.

source: Institute for Supply Management
Reshoring everywhere but in the numbers.
 

gelgoog

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Reshoring everywhere but in the numbers.
Reshoring is happening, just not to the US. Companies are moving from China either to places like Vietnam or to Mexico to take advantage of lower cost labor. The US has expensive labor, crap transportation infrastructure, and cumbersome regulations and permits scheme. Who the hell would want to open up a factory there?
 

56860

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Reshoring is happening, just not to the US. Companies are moving from China either to places like Vietnam or to Mexico to take advantage of lower cost labor. The US has expensive labor, crap transportation infrastructure, and cumbersome regulations and permits scheme. Who the hell would want to open up a factory there?
And who owns those companies?

That's not reshoring, that's offshoring.
 

Strangelove

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And rates keep going up.


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can be seen by the fact that people are spending more on their credit cards.

"American consumers have been actively using their credit cards to navigate costs associated with inflation," Melissa Lambarena, credit cards expert at NerdWallet, told Newsweek.

"Rising prices have led some consumers to rely on their credit cards to make ends meet. We're now at a point where credit card debt is at an all-time high, and the elevated cost of interest rates has only added to their debt burden."
 
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