American Economics Thread

2handedswordsman

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You could develop high tech being integrated into the global economy and that would lead to more high tech being produced but now China has to burn trillions of dollars reinventing the wheel and cause growth rates to slow substantially for the same amount of tech
Come on USA started the tarriff war and put a stand to the "integration into the global economy"
 

manqiangrexue

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High tech growth but super slow
5.8% still almost 3x faster than US low 2%. Super slow for China, way too fast for the US.
such that it will never overtake the United States.
You wouldn't admit it; you'd just say it's a scare piece by the world financial institutions LOL
Thank you
You're welcome for the education.
So what? Macro still applies and China only has a tad more STEM than the United States. EU+US+JP trounce China cleanly.
No. China has more STEM than the entire developed world combined oh ignorant one. And the gap gets wider.

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US companies love money.
That's why they sell out to China.
I never said anything about banana republics resisting, I said the US wasn't a banana republic with a large GPA
I never said that the US was a banana republic. You're arguing with yourself then.
202X is right now
2021 is right now. And China's exports and trade are growing.
No, nominal is the only thing that matters
Said no economist ever.
LOL, America has always had continuous immigration and even with 1 billion more people, the US would have higher resources per capita than most other countries
Continuous but controlled strictly. With 1 billion people, America can't even handle the culture shock and the reduction of per capita resources, which will be far far below Europe by then.
LOLOLOLOL
Cope LOL
They don't. US firm productivity trounces China by miles and miles and that gap is widening
They don't? LOL Can't use Google, can you? Don't get embarrassed from being always wrong, eh?
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No, that was the United States kicking China out of the global economy
And how's that going? China out of the global economy yet? China's global trade decreasing? LOL
 

manqiangrexue

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Yea, the crown belongs to the US today and forever until the sun swallows the Earth
Hmmmm, yeah that sure doesn't sound like a 5 year old's prayers LOL
Nope. Ericsson and Nokia own the future, Huawei is dead and their IC efforts will forever be behind for years and years and years
In your alternate universe. Here, Huawei is larger than both, ahead of both, expanding faster and these 2 don't work together.
Yeah, tell me more. The US has protests. *Yawn*.
Tired? Go to sleep; wake up when the nightmare is over and Americans stop infighting because they realize they wore themselves out to look up at a dominant China.
I mean, whatever you say, US inequality and minority protections is better than China
Fail, you just said that the US is the best because it is the most oppressive and brutal. Can't even keep your story straight...
which is why the US has a higher GDPPC
US developed early. China just came out of civil war in 1949 and really only started developing 20 years ago. And it is flying since then.
and higher inmigration
Less people, more resources
and the US will beat China today, tomorrow and unitl the sun swallows the Earth
Childish prayers against history and reality
(assuming China still exists and the US hasn't beautifully decapitated China).
From a disturbed mind claiming to be chill
The US beat the Taliban b/c the Taliban lost more,
OK, the US losing so badly that total retreat is considered winning
that's the only metric with US/China, who lost more.
Lost more what? There's no war. China gains more economically and technologically; that's the metric for trade/tech war.
China loses more all the time. Chian will always lose
Except in Korea and Vietnam and the SCS and everywhere it sent the US packing. All your imaginary conflicts China lost LOL
Money is a unit of account. Having more money reflects more and better material outcomes.
The unit is changing and artificial. It can be taken away or destroyed. Technological dominance is power that is given by nature; it trumps all.
No, no, not NorCal with 2 people total living there.
Still want to talk about China's 5 day fire? So poor at reading.

"The blaze has destroyed 557 buildings, Cal Fire said. Last week, it incinerated much of Grizzly Flats, a small community 65 miles east of Sacramento.

More than 24,000 people remained under evacuation orders Monday in El Dorado County, where the fire ignited Aug. 14, according to the Governor’s Office of Emergency Management Services.

The fire is one of 12 large blazes burning across the state. A Cal Fire spokesman said Monday that a staggering 1.5 million acres have burned in California this year, a 42 percent jump from last year,"
Because they double-counted and bring out low impact Chinese journals but not low impact US journals.
Cite where you got that. I know you made it up. Try to justify it just so I can make more fun of you.
Nope, I didn't lose.
Only by your judgement, which is different from everyone else's.
US growth grows faster than the rest of the world.
As an average maybe.
US brain drain works in favor of the US against other countries.
Except China, which can bring talent home to a high tech environment.
American science is moving faster from a higher base than China.
From a higher base, but moving much slower. At this point, you're just saying things you wish to be true with no idea or care if they are.
Find something that isn't a Japanese puff piece
Can't refute Nikkei but want to hear it elsewhere? OK. It's easy.
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Yeah, give anyone a green card and they migrate to the US. The same doesn't apply to China.
China's very selective for top talent and even then, we want Chinese for China.
There's a reason why net migration flow from China to the United States
Because there's more resources for lazy people to use in the US. That's literally the answer.
Who cares? The US has access to all of China's people, all of the US' people and the rest of the world's peole.
Dreaming. America cannot recruit China's top researchers because they are Chinese and wish to work for their country. Otherwise, Chinese science would be dead because American can access all of China's scientists and leave China with nothing. Instead, China moves faster than the US. It is testament to your divorce from reality.
China has to compete with what isn't brain drained. Even then, the US can just import more skilled labor to beat China
Except it can't and China moves faster in tech and research.
Nope, the light of American hegemony
That's a noun, a ridiculous noun, but certainly not an argument much less and answer.
Yes, American hegemony is good for all people living in the United States
That's not an answer to what I wrote; I pointed out how ridiculous and unacceptable your views are to everyone including Americans.
 
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manqiangrexue

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It's not a prayer if it's true. This isn't a civil suit lol.
But it's obviously not true because the sun hasn't swallowed the earth so it's a childish wish and prayer.
LMAO, stop counting the consumer unit.
Why? That's Huawei's resource for development. Stop being wrong on everything.
Wow. America has open dispute settlement.
Couldn't stop the riots.
Yep. Hystersis is a thing. China started poor and thus the US will always make sure China stays poor. Simple as that.
No it's actually not a thing because the "hystersis" is not a word. Superpowers surpass other superpowers all the time in history. Simple as that.
Less people, less GDP. It's that simple
You don't know what you responded to. I said the US is attractive because it has less people and more resources per capita, which would not be true if they immigrated 1 billion people. It's as simple as reading and understanding instead of word-vomiting random things as you do.
The only thing that matters is disparate impact.
The only thing that matters is that the US wasted 20 years and 2 trillion dollars and got nothing but an Afghanistan in the hands of its nemesis.
Nope. Trade/tech war meant China lost >0.5% of GDP and the US lost *0%*
Let's see your sources for those numbers. China still outgrows the US and now it's tech finally has the drive to be self-sufficient.
The US is still in Korea and China isn't in Korea;
North Korea's holding by itself. No reason for China to spend resources there when the US wouldn't dare attack as it is.
Vietnam accepts US CVNs
China took islands as permanent carriers
and the USN literally is in Japan.
The US beat Japan, no argument there.
China is the encircled party, not the United States
But they still cannot do anything against China's rise in any way. The US just wastes money trying to keep China down while China rises anyway.
Technological dominance that the US has, that the US is beautifully using to decapitate China and that the US will always have
It had it in all areas, has lost it in some, and is losing it in others to China. If the US could decapitate China, it would have done so many years ago. Now it just dreams as China outgrows it and puts the US in panic.
Oh no, not 24,000 people. That's 0.007% of the US population and from which the US can easily replace with educated Afghan women.
So you said like 2 people live there. Now you move the goalpost to that 24,000 people aren't important and some fantasy about Afghan women. You made fun of a 5 day fire in China 4 months ago so I showed that the US has 13 fires burning for over 10 days and your only answer is to move to goalpost.
You could read the list of journals the Japanese study indexed.
You could at least put forth 1 successful citation just to show that you're lazy, not incompetent.
And the United States can bring all the talent back to a high tech environment.
They will not go. They are loyal to China.
More lobbying. Shocker.
You wanted a non-Japanese source (for some nonsense reason despite Japan being a staunch US ally, not a Chinese ally) so I gave you 2 and that's all you have to say? LOL
And that's why you'll fail. China competes with 1.4 billion people (and rapidly decreasing), the US uses the talents of the entire world.
Except Chinese tech moves faster than American tech. You can't use detail and your on wishes to debunk the real big trend.
No, because the United States is a hypercompetitive place with high wages.
Wrong. China is more competitive and offers higher wages for the best talents. The US offers higher wages for the regular Joe.
LOL, nearly all of Peking and Tsinghua graduates end up going overseas.
Requires citation, not your imagination.
It's not even funny.
Your ignorance is indeed not funny.
The US is moving faster than China at a higher base and will always move faster than China even using Chinese talent to sabotage China. It's beautiful.
Another childish wish not based in reality. Your imagination is beautiful to you. Watching China outgrow the US is beautiful to us.
Chinese science was dead for a while before the US revived it and now the US will kill it with restrictions on instrumentation and knowledge flow.
Chinese lithography and semiconductor tech has never moved as fast as it is now despite your head in the sand.
And brain drain China even harder.
Actually, Chinese STEM to the US has fallen very hard recently due to both COVID and racism.
CIA psyops are magical and can alwys work.
They're magical because you imagined them. It's all magic from there.
Just look at the $50bn CIA budget causing China's internal security budget ot be in the hundreds of billions of dollars and US GDP is even *higher*
Requires source and citation, not imagination. In reality, the CIA failed to incite Hong Kong, bringing in under Chinese rule 28 years early instead and while abroad, dropped the ball at home failing to prevent the riots and capital attack in the US.
The trends say I'm right. Your imagination says otherwise. The latter means nothing.
Yes, American hegemony is the best thing that's happened to the American people.
That's fine, but it doesn't mean it's gonna last.
 
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manqiangrexue

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Yep. Except China is slowing every quarter and the US isn't. 14(1.058 - (0.0005(t - 1))^t > 21(1.020)^t. China catches up in a whole 13 years and that assumes the US doesn't do more to sabotage China and grow it's own economy. LOL, the catch up isn't happening at 5.8%.
You just calculated 13 years at 5.8% so I don't know what it's not happening means. As long as China's growth is over America's it's happening and so far, it always comfortably is.
The article said United States PhDs which is fine except the EU/JP/KR are also America's bitches.
You missed the article that was specifically labelled "Don't miss this one" that shows China's STEM above all developed nations combined.
Wouldn't matter. 1 billion new people would outvote the 300M new people and US per capita land use and resource demands would still be higher than Europe
No. Europe is larger than the US by a little with a population of 750 million. America with 1.3 billion people would have half the per capita land. You are mathematically and demonstrably wrong.
Your treating disingeous left wing crap as prophecy which shows just how disingeuous you are
1. You can't even spell disingenuous... when given 2 tries.
2. Subsidy tracker is factual, not political.
Yep. Huawei and BRI are just the start. Soon, shipbuilding, chipmaking and aircraft, space, you name it.
Soon, China will dominate in all of them.
China will be left exporting shoes and cakes
You have your glasses on backwards; China is moving in the opposite direction and you first tried to pretend that it is wrong to pursue self-reliance in high tech and now you are just pretending that it's not happening. Pathetic.
 
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