Aircraft Carriers III

FORBIN

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I add for cats capacity obviously again one clear advanatge for CATOBAR over STOBAR carriers who still remain more accessible but really more easy launch a big airstrike with a CATOBAR.

Right now with a steam cat a Nimitz can launch 1 aicraft all the 80 sec ; max with 4 cats do one all the 20 sec ; on more long time 4 in 320 sec/5mn 20 sec

After with EMALS cat Ford can launch 1 aicraft all the 45 sec ; max with 4 one all the 11 sec ; on more long time 4 in 180 sec/3 mn.

For an big airstrike of around 20 aircrafts 1/ 20 mn 2/ 12 mn.


Some interesting datas :

Cats EMALS long of 91 m, weigh 225 t, power 60 MW during 3 sec time for launch are 50% less heavy than actual steam cats C13-2 on Nimitz because removal of large metal pipes vapors circuits and also hydraulic brakes for 4 cats several hundred tons less !
Can launch a aicraft with a weight max of 45 t to 130 kn in general vs 36 t max for C-13-2
but launching speed adjustable 55/200 kn same for AAG adjustable also then saves airframes and wings.

One EMALS can lauch a aircraft all the 45 sec, C13-2 80 sec.


And i like it :)
Ahh.. many many..MANY times during high tempo operations aircraft elevators are use to send ordnance to da' roof..been there..done that..I don't care how efficient the Ford class bomb elevators are someday, unfortunately, they will have to do this to get that
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to da' roof..

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JDAM can really ruin your day...no foolin!. great for radical landscaping!
 
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sorry if it's been posted elsewhere (I've focused on Syria, to almost complete disinterest LOL):
USS Carl Vinson Conducts MV-22 Osprey Flight Operations
In preparation for the planned replacement of the C-2 Greyhound, USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) received a V-22 Osprey from Marine Operational Test and Evaluation Squadron (VMX) 1 for landings and takeoffs, June 12.

The V-22 is being tested and evaluated as it is scheduled to become the singular logistics platform on an aircraft carrier for future carrier on-board delivery operations.

"These operations present an opportunity for our flight crews to gain experience landing on an aircraft carrier as opposed to landing on an amphibious ship," said Marine Corps Lt. Col. Brett Hart, VMX-1 executive officer. "It allows us to become accustomed to a different set of operating procedures, and additionally allows Air Department Sailors on board Carl Vinson to become accustomed to landing and handling tilt rotor aircraft."

Since the Osprey is still a new platform for aircraft carriers, there were some things the flight deck crew had to be mindful of.

"I would encourage flight deck personnel to be aware of the extreme downwash that the V-22 generates," said Hart. "In fact, I would say it's even more extreme than an MH-53 [Sea Dragon helicopter], which can be dangerous. After today's operations, it's apparent that Carl Vinson's flight deck crew was prepared, and everyone involved with landing the aircraft seemed to be giving themselves a little extra room."

The operation proved to be a valuable training opportunity for Carl Vinson Sailors on the flight deck.

"As we phase out the C-2s and start implementing the V-22s during this evaluation phase, this is the first time our Sailors have had a chance to directly deal with a new aircraft," said Aviation Boatswain's Mate (Handling) 3rd Class Trell Matthias, an aircraft director assigned to Carl Vinson's Air Department, V-1 Division. "Aside from the increased prop exhaust, I thought it was almost the same as landing a helicopter."

Matthias added that day-to-day training and proper preparation are essential to make Air Department Sailors ready to handle anything that may come across the deck.

"Only a handful of us are LSE (landing signalman enlisted) qualified and able to land helicopters and Ospreys," said Matthias. "But we train hard to get the job done, no matter the aircraft."

Hart went on to say that with the ability to take off and land like a helicopter, the Osprey is a valuable asset to both the Navy and Marine Corps. It possesses the speed, range and carrying capability of an airplane, but also offers the versatility and flexibility to land places that require neither runways or arresting wires.

"With the incorporation of the V-22, I think the fleet will also see additional capabilities from the entire group at-large, because we now have the option of taking cargo and personnel to some of the smaller decks without first having to come to the aircraft carrier," said Hart. "With that considered, the carrier can expect to have potentially more flight deck and air space freed up, allowing it to launch more sorties in support of combat operations."

Carl Vinson is currently underway conducting command assessment of readiness and training (CARAT) II off the coast of Southern California.
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Air Force Brat

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I've long noticed American Designers whether it be ships or planes, seem to have an aesthetic aversion to curves (I personally love them, but that's another story). They aren't happy unless it can only be drawn with straight lines. The F-117 Stealth Fighter was the pinnacle of this thinking (yes I know the real reasons why), but there is an undeniable bias against curvaceous appearance...

While I am sure you could make a well reasoned argument about the curves, using your classic E-type Jaguar, as opposed to the Mustang?? the Camaro did indeed have lots of curves, and the Dodge Charger had the famed "coke bottle" configuration??

The Ferrari GTO had lots of nice curves, but was basically a "hand built" custom compared to American assembly lines, and volume is the real reason that designers never get all their "curves" into production.

curves and compound structures are expensive, as well as difficult to manufacture.
"edit, and REPAIR", LOL

but really using the "wobbling goblin" as an example, is really not fair??? is it????
 

Obi Wan Russell

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I do speak on this matter somewhat tongue in cheek, but I was picking up on the fact that overall, American designers lean towards straight lines. Look at the trends in car design in the 70s, some of them would have had square wheels if they could! Oh and compare the RA-5 Vigilante (very squared off) with the Hawker Siddeley Buccaneer (my personal favourite, with curves to die for!) and see this is not a new issue ;-)e147pv.jpg 1165607.jpg
 

FORBIN

Lieutenant General
Registered Member
Very nice to see it ! :p

STRAIT OF GIBRALTAR (June 13, 2016) The aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) (Ike) transits through the strait into the Mediterranean Sea. Ike, the flagship of the Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group, is conducting naval operations in the U.S. 6th Fleet area of operation in support of U.S. national security interests in Europe.

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After more large but less nice.
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FORBIN

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ARABIAN GULF (June 16, 2016) An AV-8B Harrier II, assigned to the 13th Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU), launches from the amphibious assault ship USS Boxer (LHD 4) to conduct missions in support of Operation Inherent Resolve. Boxer is the flagship for the Boxer Amphibious Ready Group and, with the embarked 13th MEU, is deployed in support of maritime security operations and theater cooperation efforts in the U.S. 5th Fleet area of operations. (U.S. Navy video/Released)
 
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