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in case you didn't know First U.S. aircraft carrier of Trump presidency enters the Persian Gulf
American sailors watched as the first Revolutionary Guard vessels appeared on the horizon of the Strait of Hormuz, beginning a daylong face-off that has become familiar to both Iranian paramilitary and U.S. naval forces that pass through the narrow mouth of the Persian Gulf.

But these routine, if tense encounters may soon grow even more perilous.

President Trump has warned that Iranian forces will be blown out of the water if they challenge U.S. naval vessels, while American commanders describe the Guard as increasingly behaving unprofessionally with rocket launches and provocative actions. Iranian hard-liners, still smarting over the nuclear detente with the West, may see a military confrontation as a way to derail moderate President Hassan Rouhani heading into the country's May presidential election.

What happens next could hinge on the Strait of Hormuz, through which a third of all oil trade by sea passes.

"What reason were they to be in an international corridor, other than to harass us?" Rear Adm. Kenneth Whitesell, commander of Carrier Strike Group 2, said of the Iranian actions. "Was today the day they were going to come out and potentially deploy kinetic actions against us?"

Whitesell oversees the strike group that has the USS George H.W. Bush at its heart. The Nimitz-class, nuclear-powered carrier left her homeport of Norfolk, Virginia, on Jan. 21 — Trump's first full day in office. Its passage through the strait closes a roughly three-month gap in which America had no aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf. A similar gap happened in the fall of 2015 — the first for the U.S. since 2007.

Its overall mission is providing a base for airstrikes against the Islamic State group. The ship's contingent of F-18 fighter jets began bombing the extremists in February as the vessel transited through the Mediterranean Sea.

But serving as a counterbalance to Iran and assuring America's Gulf Arab allies in the region also remains vital, Whitesell said. While acknowledging that Trump and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis have strong suspicions about Iran, he said there hadn't been any change in his orders in how to deal with the Islamic Republic.

"The political aspect of the United States has kind of been in our wake," the rear admiral said.

Threats, however, remain. After a Saudi naval vessel came under attack from a purported "drone" boat off the coast of war-torn Yemen, in the Bab al-Mandeb Strait in the Red Sea, U.S. vessels in this strike group changed their routine to protect themselves while passing, said Capt. Will Pennington, the commanding officer of the Bush.

"Some of our escort ships arrived in advance of us and provided security in that Bab al-Mandeb and a few lagged a few days behind so our coverage of that area was extended," Pennington said. "That same threat could exist here in the Strait of Hormuz or any other strait."

Small vessel attacks also include the October 2000 boat-borne bombing by al-Qaida on the USS Cole, which killed 17 American sailors while the ship was refueling in Yemen's Aden harbor.

The worry grows for U.S. officials as the Navy recorded 35 instances of what it describes as "unsafe and/or unprofessional" interactions with Iranians forces in 2016, compared to 23 in 2015. Before this week, there had been six, said Lt. Ian McConnaughey, a spokesman for the U.S. 5th Fleet, based on the nearby island of Bahrain.

Of the incidents last year, the worst involved Iranian forces capturing 10 U.S. sailors and holding them overnight. It became a propaganda coup for Iran's hard-liners, as Iranian state television repeatedly aired footage of the Americans on their knees, their hands on their heads.

Iranian forces view the American presence in the Gulf and especially the Strait of Hormuz as a provocation by itself. They in turn have accused the U.S. Navy of unprofessional behavior.

At dawn on Tuesday, the Bush and its strike force entered the strait, which at its narrowest point is 33 kilometers (21 miles) wide, in the waters between Iran and Oman.

A Rihanna song playing over a loudspeaker on the deck was quickly cut off at the first sighting of Iranian vessels.

Iranian authorities demanded the Americans leave the area, though both the U.S. Navy and a nearby Omani warship said the strike group was in Omani waters.

The Iranians had speedboats and other craft, several displaying the Kalashnikov-rifle emblem of the Revolutionary Guard. U.S. helicopters circled overhead as some of the Iranians used telephoto lens and video cameras to film the carrier — while international journalists invited onboard the Bush filmed them.

On the bridge, a sailor called out: "There's nine. Reports of weapons being loaded."

But the Iranians merely stood alongside their machine guns, coming at their closest some 860 meters (940 yards) from the carrier as armed American sailors kept watch.

Hours later, the carrier exited the strait and entered the waters of the Persian Gulf, leaving the Iranians behind.

Still, Whitesell rated the day's danger a 7.5 out of 10, due to fog and other issues compounding the possible threat the Iranian vessels posed.

"They had every one of those weapons manned and we also have video data that they were arming every one of those weapons," he told journalists.

Minutes later, Whitesell excused himself to return to the bridge. More Revolutionary Guard boats had emerged from the fog.
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FORBIN

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Accomodation on the QECs for junior Ratings will indeed be in six berth cabins, which include wi fi access so they can face-time with family back home whenever they are off duty for example. A bit of a change from the occasional letter home in the old days! The QECs have a ship's complement of about 680, about the same as the preceding Invincible class, but with air group embarked this will rise to between 1400-1600, which in a hull similar in size to the USNs Kitty Hawks which could accommodate over 5000, albeit packed in 'like sardines', which is a standard of living conditions modern recruits would not accept to be fair:View attachment 37215 View attachment 37216 Retention is a major issue for all modern Navies. You can't just pack them into racks like the old days. One of the reasons modern warships are so much bigger than their predecessors is the need to provide improved facilities for their crews, including recreation, so Gymnasiums and better berthing for even the most junior members of the crew. It's not enough to say 'Join the Navy, See the World' because with internet access and air travel most potential recruits can already see the world if the urge takes them.

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Your well informed in more British, i have qty of fuel aviation 3600 t, ship 5000 t in a good article i have read, if a day u have for ammunitions interest me.
 

Jeff Head

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A new big boy Kaga DDH-184 the 2nd Izumo enter service today based to Kure do swap hull with Ise/Hyuga which go for Sasebo but in fact replace in the Fleet Kurama/Shirane before based to Sasebo retired today

Hyuga class i have can host up to 28 helos ( Hyuga 18 ) usualy 7 SH-60K, 2 MCH-101 ( Hyuga 3 + 1 )
But a doubt for the max number also mentionned up to 14 and 11 for two classes ?



Izumo more versatile can embark up to 500 troops vs 100

Janiz SamuraiBlue what u have for max helo number ?



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There has been talk for several years about another design...another class of 4-6 vessels of similar size specifically designed for fixed wing aircraft...like the F-35B.

I believe the two Izumos ould quickly be set up to accommodate F-35Bs too.
 

FORBIN

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Other nice vidéo here and article,
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Now each Destroyer Flotilla of 8 combattants divided in 2 Sqns not based in the same port have one modern helos carrier each have 1 DDH, 2 AAW DDG and 5 DDG - exist also 5 Escort Convoys Sqns of 2 - 3 more old DDG, FF Abukuma with 14 units and 3 Hatsuyuki for training able for combat ofc,
Total : 43 DDG whose 4 DDH, 6 FF + 6 MB + 19 SSKs a Fleet ! the 4th but don't have CV and nuclear submarines.
 

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The last Forrestal class CV, Independence, is being towed to the breakers yard in Brownsville TX..

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BREMERTON, Wash. (March 11, 2017) Tug boats tow the decommissioned aircraft carrier USS Independence (CVN 62) through the Sinclair Inlet en route to Brownsville, Texas, for dismantling by International Shipbreaking LTD. The Independence was commissioned Jan. 10, 1959, and was the fourth and final of the Forrestal-class carriers. (U.S. Navy photo/Released)

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Sunday at 7:58 AM
Feb 10, 2017
now
Admiral: Carrier Gaps Could Return in 2018
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while Navy Bracing For Air Wing Shutdowns, Ship Maintenance Cancellations If Continuing Resolution Extended
More than a dozen ship maintenance availabilities – including aircraft carriers, submarines and surface ships, but predominately affecting guided-missile destroyers, USNI News understands – would be canceled altogether. And,
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, about $5 billion in Navy shipbuilding funds to buy the LHA-8 amphibious assault ship and other ships would go unused, due to being in the wrong part of the budget and the Navy not having the authority under a CR to move that money into more useful budget lines.

The Navy has not yet begun to take major steps such as canceling availabilities or deployments, but the service would begin taking actions next month if lawmakers don’t act to pass a defense spending bill.

In a March 16 House Armed Services readiness subcommittee hearing, Vice Adm. Joseph Mulloy, deputy chief of naval operations for integration of capabilities and resources (OPNAV N8), told lawmakers that “at this point in time, we have not taken those over-actions to shut down air wings; we have looked at deferring maintenance, but no availabilities have been canceled.”

He noted, though, that some smaller actions, such as slowing down the purchase of spare parts for non-deployed ships, have already begun. If any further action takes place due to insufficient funding in FY 2017, he warned the subcommittee that the real impact would be felt in FY 2018 and beyond.

“What happens is, if air wings actually shut down, instead of taking a month to get back flying, it takes months. So the impacts would ripple through the end of ‘17 but also into a significant part of ‘18,” he said.
“When we get to Fiscal Year ‘18, the ships and squadrons not working up or maintaining now would be not deploying in ’18. We would start seeing the same carrier gaps, start seeing other impacts around the world, but largely it would be in ’18. Not as much in ‘17 because we keep the deployed forces ready.”

Additionally, USNI News learned from the Navy information, money would have to be moved around to cover basic sailor payroll costs, and bonus payments would be stopped or delayed. Sailors and their families would see delays in moves to new duty stations, and accessions would be cut, leading to gapped billets at sea and ashore. Air shows and fleet weeks would all be canceled to help pay for other operations and maintenance needs, and critical shore construction projects – many of which have been postponed for years, repeatedly used as bill-payers for other spending needs – such as runways, housing, piers and other waterfront infrastructure would be further delayed.
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