That's the operation I was thinking of in my earlier post!Good ! also Kitty Hawk in 2001 used as helo carrier for SF etc... and possible host 2000 troops, more ?
If you have a day some pics Master Popeye
Aircraft Carriers III
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Jura The idiot
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new vid Published on Oct 14, 2016
Jura The idiot
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Jura The idiot
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thought you would give me something like this:
(this "picture" comes from the most recent blog post which happens to discuss pretty much the same stuff as we did here recently
it'sWhy your CVF should not moonlight as your LPH
Almost 100 % of readiness for Rafale deployed, amazing !
On the night of October 15 to 16, 2016, three Rafale air force and four Rafale of the French Navy, conducted a planned strike several SCALP missiles at a warehouse of manufacturing FDI (improvised explosive devices - IEDs) in the region of Mosul
On the night of October 15 to 16, 2016, three Rafale air force and four Rafale of the French Navy, conducted a planned strike several SCALP missiles at a warehouse of manufacturing FDI (improvised explosive devices - IEDs) in the region of Mosul
An interesting read overall, factually generally correct but with a noticeable bias and a negative spin to the article. I could quote all the facts they did and give it a completely different spin. I won't, I trust those here to draw their own conclusions once the facts have been presented. And myself and the author are in fact singing from the same hymn sheet for the most part. I do want HMS Ocean to be retained in service for a few more years and eventually have a like for like replacement. Highly unlikely in the current and foreseeable political climate. In that light what matters more is that the capability is preserved, even if it is amalgamated into the QECs.
We did this before, when the Invincibles were built they were designed to be both ASW carriers and Commando carriers as and when required, replacing both the fixed wing carriers like Ark Royal and Commando Carriers like Bulwark and Hermes.. The capability was preserved and the RN played the long game, eventually proving the value of a ship like Ocean separately from the existing carriers. We're going down that road again but politicians are very short sighted about important matters.
Something in the Article that did Irk me somewhat, with regard to the America class LHAs was a passage that read "It is planned that the LHA will typically operate six F35-Bs (together with its Ospreys and helicopters) that would provide close-support for the troops. They also have the capacity to operate as emergency aircraft carriers embarking up to 20 F-35Bs. It may lack the ski-ramp to help launch F-35Bs but the LHA may well moonlight as CVF better than QEC can moonlight as an LPH." (my bold). No they can't.
It feels like an attempt to add fuel to those who continually sneer that we should have bought something like an America class LHA or an Italian 'Cavour' instead of the QECs. Well the USMC Lightning pilots are looking forward to deploying on a QEC more than on their own LHA/LHDs given past comments from the pilots. The loss of capability that would come with substituting one of the smaller and inferior designs would be immense and completely disproportionate to any meagre savings that might have been made.
With carriers, bigger is always better, something not always apparent when they are new but twenty years down the line (and these ships are intended to last fifty years) it comes in very handy. The US Forrestal class and all following USN carriers were regarded as oversized when built but over the course of their lifetimes none of them had to be structurally rebuilt to any degree, and if they were still in commission they could operate any frontline aircraft currently in service with the USN today, more than sixty years after they were built. Building your warships to fit just todays requirements with no room to accommodate tomorrows needs has been shown to be a false economy.
Rant mode off, spleen vented, calm is returning...
Hear Hear!!
Greatest Post in the history of the aircraft carrier threads in this forum! I wholeheartedly agree with every word. And the USMC pilots are looking very much forward to flying off the QE! I remember all the praise they gave Invincible during their short stay aboard her in 2007.
Greatest Post in the history of the aircraft carrier threads in this forum! I wholeheartedly agree with every word. And the USMC pilots are looking very much forward to flying off the QE! I remember all the praise they gave Invincible during their short stay aboard her in 2007.